manudude03 Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 i assume the hand shown is the hand to respond to pard opening 1cland next opp x's if one uses 2spades,[weak end of story unless the openerhas 18/19 points 1club opener}--having said that to bid 2cl is a travesty.To arrive at an optimum contract whatever--I would xx {redouble},im interested in pards reaction and subsequent bid-or if next opp bids,and my paqrtner would be interested as well dont forget we have the balance of points,if pard has opened sub normal point wise, his subsequent bidding will clear it up. No, the posted hand is answering the takeout double by partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 I didn't mean that we have to show that we have five of them - I can understand treating this as a 4224 shape. I was replying to a post that suggested concealing the fact that we have any kind of spade suit.That was my post, and a bit silly at that; but it was only a tiny bit further out there from MrAce's initial thoughts (with which I mostly agree). The OP hand feels like a NoTrump hand which should be played from this side of the table, or if we have a nine-fit in spades it still should be played over here; and showing spades without bidding them doesn't quite get the job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 and showing spades without bidding them doesn't quite get the job done. What do you mean by this ? If i understood correctly u like to play 4♠ with 5-4 major, and 3NT if no 9 card ♠ as i do too. I can learn pd's 4♠ always when i start with 2♣. It works just like stayman here. Over 2♦ or 2♥ response i jump to 3NT and pd can always bid 4♠ with 4. If i didnt want him to bid 4♠ i would have never wasted time with cue and bid direct 3NT over his DBL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 All I meant, Timo, was that it doesn't get your hand to be declarer if the 5-4 spade fit is found, and I think with that club situation and the other stuff the hand should be declarer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 All I meant, Timo, was that it doesn't get your hand to be declarer if the 5-4 spade fit is found, and I think with that club situation and the other stuff the hand should be declarer. I see, good point. Perhaps a creative pd can help us but i wouldnt bet on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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