magassoc Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 Holding 1087632♠ A42♥ Void♦ AJ76♣, I passed in first seat and the bidding went as follows: P-P-1H-P-1S-P-1NT-P-3H-P-P-P. Since we play Drury, my question is, should partner have recognized that my hand has 6 bad Spades (a hand not suitable to a 2 Spade opening)? Would most experts assume that the 1 Spade bidder has about 10 pts, 6 bad Spades, and 3 Hearts for his bid? Partner's hand was QJ♠ J10986♥ KJ64♦ K8♣ and 4 Spades makes with 3 Hearts down one. Marion Gebhardt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 Holding 1087632♠ A42♥ Void♦ AJ76♣, I passed in first seat and the bidding went as follows: P-P-1H-P-1S-P-1NT-P-3H-P-P-P. Since we play Drury, my question is, should partner have recognized that my hand has 6 bad Spades (a hand not suitable to a 2 Spade opening)? Would most experts assume that the 1 Spade bidder has about 10 pts, 6 bad Spades, and 3 Hearts for his bid? Partner's hand was QJ♠ J10986♥ KJ64♦ K8♣ and 4 Spades makes with 3 Hearts down one. Marion GebhardtEasy 1♠ opener for me so I don't have this problem. 1♠-2♥-2♠-3♦-3♥-3♠-4♠. Unsure about the Drury sequence as I don't play it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWO4BRIDGE Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 Since we play Drury, my question is, should partner have recognized that my hand has 6 bad Spades (a hand not suitable to a 2 Spade opening)? I had not thought about this sequence until you brought it up.I think you are right, but maybe a 3 ( or 4 ) card ♥limit raise with either a 5 or 6 card ♠- - and definitely a hand w/flaws that you normally would not open 1, 2 or 3♠. But partner here, will still probably pass 3H - - wanting to protect his Kings on the opening lead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yu18772 Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 I am not sure 4♠ is an easy contract - especially if they start with AK♠....About the auction - you may be right in principle, but i am not sure partner can deduce this at the tabe without prior discussion. If you are playing checkbak or nmf by passed hand, then may be1♥-1♠1NT-2♣2♦-3♥should make partner think a bit longer.... http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirate22 Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 I am not sure 4♠ is an easy contract - especially if they start with AK♠....About the auction - you may be right in principle, but i am not sure partner can deduce this at the tabe without prior discussion. If you are playing checkbak or nmf by passed hand, then may be1♥-1♠1NT-2♣2♦-3♥should make partner think a bit longer.... http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirate22 Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 using the LTC losing trick count--- open 1 spade and proceedyou have 3 losing spades-2 losing hts-none in diam's and 2 in cl.against pards possible yarborough.therefore you will be rescuedby opps :) if pard has a modicum,all is well.i would not abuse the system and open 2 spades or 3 spades Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magassoc Posted December 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 using the LTC losing trick count--- open 1 spade and proceedyou have 3 losing spades-2 losing hts-none in diam's and 2 in cl.against pards possible yarborough.therefore you will be rescuedby opps :) if pard has a modicum,all is well.i would not abuse the system and open 2 spades or 3 spadesGood suggestion. What do you bid after partner bids 2H(2 OVER 1 forcing to game)? One possible sequence 1S-2H-2S-3D-3H-3S-??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magassoc Posted December 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Four Spades makes because the clubs are magic. If the opponents start with AKX of Spades you have to take the club finesse which wins and the spots are such that the 4th club is now high 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Four Spades makes because the clubs are magic. If the opponents start with AKX of Spades you have to take the club finesse which wins and the spots are such that the 4th club is now highAnd how many hearts do you lose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magassoc Posted December 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 And how many hearts do you lose?One Heart! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 For starters all the LTC books tell you DONT use LTC to decide to open a hand or not. This is a common miss use of LTC. You only use LTC after you find a fit! I open light and this is a borderline hand but I think I would pass with my hcp outside of spades. the bidding might start:p=1h1s=2d( I mean diamonds are my best suit lets bid them)2s?( with a void in d and no honors in s I might go slow?) The opp with 20hcp might step into the bidding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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