XYZ and different types of relays

[Mbodell]

I think I understand why bd71 is asking:

 

So how does XYZ work in a Walsh style, where opener rebids 1N on all balanced mins (I'm accustomed to playing XYZ in a context where opener will rebid 1S with 4S and a weak NT)?

 

Let's give responder an invitational hand with both majors, and opener a weak NT. How do we distinguish between responder being 44xx and 45xx, finding 5-3 heart fits and 4-4 spade fits? It seems like bidding 2C-2D-2S will have us playing 2N when opener is 2344, for example.

 

 

Responder with a 44xx invite bids 1♦-1♥-1nt-2♣-2♦-2♠. You haven't missed a 4-4 heart fit as opener raises with 4 card support.

 

Responder with a 45xx invite bids 1♦-1♥-1nt-2♣-2♦-2♥. If partner doesn't accept hearts he bids spades with 4 of them (which may be giving away information if opener is 35xx or 25xx or what not, but oh well, and some folks would have given away the same info on the 1 level which comes up much more often).

[mike777]

I think I understand why bd71 is asking:

 

So how does XYZ work in a Walsh style, where opener rebids 1N on all balanced mins (I'm accustomed to playing XYZ in a context where opener will rebid 1S with 4S and a weak NT)?

 

Let's give responder an invitational hand with both majors, and opener a weak NT. How do we distinguish between responder being 44xx and 45xx, finding 5-3 heart fits and 4-4 spade fits? It seems like bidding 2C-2D-2S will have us playing 2N when opener is 2344, for example.

 

 

Playing Walsh style you still rebid 1s over 1h with a balanced minimum.

You dont rebid the major over 1c=1d with a balanced hand. Responder denies a major unless gf.

 

1m=1h

1s