sasioc Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 You hold ♠ AKTxxxx♥ -♦ -♣ JT9xxx 1st in at unfavourable playing teams. First question - what is your call? At the table I passed and the auction proceeded p (p) 1NT (2♥*) *H and a minor; 1NT = 14-163♠ (4♥) 4♠ (p) Do you agree with 3♠ (which is gf in principle but obviously I'm a passed hand so it is not impossible that partner will drop it - this possibility had not really occurred to me when I bid it)? What do you do now? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 I would open 1♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 1♠ to begin with. 6♠ on the given scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 1) agree with pass2) prefer 4h tfr to 4s3) pass now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 I♠ in any jurisdiction. Everything would be different after that, so I haven't a clue what to do on the given auction. If I opened 1♠, I still might not have a clue; but will have different information upon which to make the wrong choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 detest pass. i would bid 4s. i would rather bid 6s than pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 I would open 4S on this. Second choice is 1S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 I open 4♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 lots of posts from pass to 1s to 4s and then some think anything less than 6s is silly ...wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 lots of posts from pass to 1s to 4s and then some think anything less than 6s is silly ...wowI believe the 6S part is referring to the auction as it developed after we passed the first time. If you were making one of my type of jokes, I apologize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 4S and no second choice. Maybe optimistic to hope that I buy it but I'm definitely not going to let them in cheaply just so I can find clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Opening 6S however seems like an extremely funny/interesting bluff because of the vul... Maybe with the right image and against the right opps they will just save. If I was a little old lady playing against myself 6S would probably be the winner! I have never seen anyone open 6S r/w and not have it in their hand. Would have to be an almost perfect situation for it to be right though, I doubt I'd ever do it. Kind of like how I think opening 6C in third seat r/w with xx xx xx AKQJT98 is probably right in some ideal world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 pass put you on a better position than anyone, even when it looks as a ridicoulous option. Now you can blast bid 5♦ or blast 6♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 I would just open 4S. This isn't a hand to be scientific. Passed worked really well though. Now either bid 5D (if pard skips a heart cue, a grand is possible) or just play the odds and bid 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sasioc Posted November 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Clearly part of the reason I passed was that I hoped that I'd be able to show my hand later but I could obviously run into problems on a competitive auction. I was also worried that if I opened 4S and oppo came in I'd be very poorly placed. When I passed I had certainly already decided that I would bid 4S later if I had to. At the table I bid 6♠ over 4 because my partner and I don't play together often and I wasn't sure what 5m would be - on one hand it certainly sounds like a cue bid but on the other I must surely have been dealt a very shapely two suiter to have passed and now be looking for slam, so maybe it should be NAT? Given that I wasn't certain what 5m should be and which m suit p would expect from me if I bid it (if I bid 5♦ and then try 6♦ later to look for grand I am certainly worried p will pass it) I thought 6♠ was the most practical bid. To whereagles, how will p show/ skip a heart cue? I'd have thought 5♥ over 5♦ would just show a club cue (kind of last train-esque), otherwise you have no idea what's going on when p bids 5♠? P put down JxxAKxxxxxAQx so obviously small is all but frigid. To the (many) people who open 4S, what would do you if it went 4s p p 5H or something of that ilk? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 To whereagles, how will p show/ skip a heart cue? I'd have thought 5♥ over 5♦ would just show a club cue (kind of last train-esque), otherwise you have no idea what's going on when p bids 5♠? Well, pard did open 1NT. If pard skips the heart cue I can't possibly believe he has no club cue. He'd need to have like QxxQJxAKQQxxx or thereabouts for us to be off 2 club tricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sasioc Posted November 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Well, pard did open 1NT. If pard skips the heart cue I can't possibly believe he has no club cue. He'd need to have like QxxQJxAKQQxxx or thereabouts for us to be off 2 club tricks. I realise that if p has no heart control, slam is pretty darn likely to be good but that wasn't really what I was asking - sorry if I wasn't clear. I meant that I don't understand what auction you are referring to. It sounded as if you were advocating looking for grand if p bid 5♠, which is what he is likely to bid on *any* hand with no club control, regardless of whether it contains a heart control or not because he will believe we are off 2 clubs. Surely 5♥, whatever else it shows, must promise a club control here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Well, I meant pard might bid 5H even without a club control. But you're right, he probably won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycroft Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Heh, we were practising Keri responses in BBO bidding, and about the third hand that came up was (opposite a 12-14 1NT): AQJTxxx--AJT9xx-- Partner had no clue what to do with it. I have to admit I suggested "transfer to spades, bid 6♦" (we don't play exclusion anywhere, and we aren't ready yet (maybe ever) for asking bids...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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