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QUOTE (helene_t @ Oct 13 2004, 04:58 PM)

I'm glad to hear that artificial calls are alertable in Australia, that gives me yet another reason to migrate  . 

 

QUOTE (Luke Warm)

can i hitch a ride with you?

 

The_Hog Posted on Oct 13 2004, 11:44 PM

  You can both stay at my place. 

 

Luke Warm Posted

deal!!!! now all we need is a 4th 

 

 

Since I cannot hope to earn my place due to bridge skills, i may try to corrupt you folks by cooking italian food ... :P

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(Back to the original question: 1 - 2NT showing clubs and hearts, no alert, adjusted score awarded by TD.)

 

It would have been better for us to make a judgment by seeing the full hand and other pertinent information. Without it we have no way of answering questions like:

 

Did you have a convention card loaded that the opponents might have looked at?

 

What is the nature of the damage claimed by the opponents?

 

Is this damage directly related to the non-alert?

 

Were the opponents experienced players, enough to know better before coming into an auction on a dubious assumption about the meaning of a bid?

 

 

It's far from clear that an adjustment is called for here, although I can see cases where one might be given. 2NT has so many possible meanings that I think in online bridge the onus should be on the opponents to ask privately if they need to, when any such ambiguous bid is not alerted. The idea that an opponent hearing the 2NT bid can take a shot and ask for an adjustment later if it doesn't work troubles me, ESPECIALLY in an environment where we can ask about a bid privately with no chance of unauthorized information being passed.

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