MrAce Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 So Bergen raises are played after a double but 2NT is natural? LOL..I ask Jesus to help you, today, all day, any day, every day, maybe one day.......seems he ain't gonna do it. I don't know why, but I suspect it is beyond his power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 So Bergen raises are played after a double but 2NT is natural? Yes. I asked once what he does with opening values, he says either bid game or if it's really too good, then XX followed up with 4M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles123 Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 I was playing with an old partner this morning just a fun game but proper scoring etc. about halfway round we came to a notorious LOL and her long suffering but equally as weak husband. The bidding proceeds as follows: [hv=pc=n&n=saqt875hj8d76cj85&d=n&v=e&b=9&a=2sdp3c(showing%20some%20values)3s(screw%20you)3npp4s(I%20am%20determined%20to%20play%20this%20one!)dppp]133|200[/hv] at the end of the auction I gently tell her that the auction looks all wrong but...She had none of it! well that's not true, look at the vulnerability we're non vul you're vul I HAVE to bid game. Even if it goes 3 off it's going to be a top for our side. well after we cashed our 7 top tricks and 4sx drifted 4 off we put it in the bridgemate and see that every other table the contract is 3N going DOWN 2 by EW. luckily her husband was there to console her on this "unlucky fluke hand. You made the right bid partner". Eagles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 at the end of the auction I gently tell her that the auction looks all wrong and that virtually always once you have limited your hand i.e. with the 2s bid, you shouldn't really speak again unless asked to by partner. Unless she is your student this is super rude. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinksy Posted December 20, 2014 Report Share Posted December 20, 2014 Unless she is your student this is super rude. Is eagles your student, then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Is eagles your student, then? If I have ever criticised eagles' bidding it would be because he posted it on these forums where people are looking for comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Actually Stephanie, some post to satisfy their narcissistic tendencies. The value of their bridge comments is zero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 If I have ever criticised eagles' bidding it would be because he posted it on these forums where people are looking for comments.I don't think Jinksy was asking about bridge lessons. You were giving him unsolicited lessons on conduct, which is just as rude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diana_eva Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Unless she is your student this is super rude. I also think it's rude for opps to give unsolicited advice. I wouldn't go as far as saying it;s "super rude" but yeah, it's annoying. Especially when opps have no clue what the partnership harmony is. Like in this case for instance, if they were willing to chalk it up as "unlucky" why rub the salt... Let them play and be happy and think they weren't lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinksy Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 I don't think Jinksy was asking about bridge lessons. You were giving him unsolicited lessons on conduct, which is just as rude. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 I don't think Jinksy was asking about bridge lessons. You were giving him unsolicited lessons on conduct, which is just as rude. Do you seriously think so? I think that bad behaviour can be worth a telling-off, while opponents' bidding is not. And maybe eagles has learnt a valuable lesson, since while he has retained in his post his initial criticism of his opponents' bidding, he has deleted the free bridge lesson he gave them. LOL but people will find fault with anything if they try hard enough. I must admit that I am flattered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 If you write something on a public forum you are inviting everyone to give their opinion. If you are discussing a board with your p you are not necessarily inviting third persons to participate 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles123 Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 christ i deleted the comment can we just move on lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Do you seriously think so? I think that bad behaviour can be worth a telling-off, while opponents' bidding is not. And maybe eagles has learnt a valuable lesson, since while he has retained in his post his initial criticism of his opponents' bidding, he has deleted the free bridge lesson he gave them. LOL but people will find fault with anything if they try hard enough. I must admit that I am flattered.That, and can we agree not to use profanities on these fora. I realise that might be difficult for those with limited vocabularies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinksy Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Seriously? The guy who can't go two posts without abusing his peers gets upset if they depart from Queen's English? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Seriously? The guy who can't go two posts without abusing his peers gets upset if they depart from Queen's English? So you think "Christ" is acceptable? Why am I not surprised? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinidad Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 So you think "Christ" is acceptable? Why am I not surprised?The recent comments are certainly fitting the thread title. I will add a less fitting comment: Season's greetings and the best for 2015 to everyone on BBF, Rik 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles123 Posted December 23, 2014 Report Share Posted December 23, 2014 this happened at the club last night, Vampyr and Hog you will be pleased I made no comment to the opps!! [hv=pc=n&s=st82h973dq753ckj9&w=sk43hqt5da4cat763&n=saq95ha84dt986c85&e=sj76hkj62dkj2cq42&d=n&v=e&b=9&a=ppp1cp1hp1npp2dp3ddppp]399|300[/hv] hopeless comment afterwards: a frustrated South to North - "you're far too weak to bid 3 diamonds partner". 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted December 23, 2014 Report Share Posted December 23, 2014 hopeless comment afterwards: a frustrated South to North - "you're far too weak to bid 3 diamonds partner".It's not so clueless. Balancing actions are often made with weak hands -- you're bidding partner's expected values. North had about what he's expected to have (South was probably expecting even more, because East had more than enough to invite with 2NT), so he had no business raising. However, South isn't totally blameless. Balancing is pretty dangerous when the opponents haven't found a fit -- there's no reason to expect that your side has a fit, either. And 4333 is the worst shape a hand can have, especially when it's weak in high cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinksy Posted December 23, 2014 Report Share Posted December 23, 2014 Yeah, N's raise is dubious. But nowhere near as bad as S's call (and S's complaint wasn't that N wasn't shapely enough, which IMO would have made more sense, since it looks like a competitive raise). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles123 Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 I have to report one from tonight - although I made a bad bid imo my partner had a stinker [hv=pc=n&s=skt98ht85dckqt852&w=sahq43dakqjt98c76&n=sq6543hkj976dcj93&e=sj72ha2d765432ca4&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=ppp2c2s3d(bad%20bid%20by%20me%20i%20think)4sp(!!!!!)pdpp(!!!!!)p]399|300[/hv] in fairness this was the last round but I couldn't believe it :lol: my partner said afterwards that she thought my "3d bid was negative and the X was penalty" oops 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 West made a game forcing opening bid. Whatever double means, West has little or no defense against 4♠, and if 3♦ is negative, neither does East. So clearly West should bid 5♦, or she shouldn't have bid 2♣ in the first place. Either way, this partnership needs to nail down what calls means after a 2♣ start and interference. Might take a while, but it's a necessary discussion, IMO. Of course, if your partner is like one of mine, any discussion of any bidding is "a waste of time" and not to be borne. B-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Admittedly, it's hard to believe partner is making a natural positive when you are holding AKQJT98 in the suit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenMan Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 The good news is that giving a ruff-and-sluff at trick 1 doesn't (directly) cause any damage. :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kungsgeten Posted January 23, 2015 Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 I had this one yesterday, being dealer and playing a team game at the local club: P-(Dbl*) LHO is clearly confused and wonder what to do, puts a double on the table and honestly wonder if that is allowed. We tell her it isn't. "Well... I guess I have to start with a club then..." (this is a pair playing 4 card openings). The corrected bidding comtinues. P-(1C)-Dbl-(P);P-(1NT*)-P-(P);Dbl-AP Before bidding 1NT: LHO: "If I pass now, will I have to play 1C doubled?"We: "Yes"LHO: "Well, that's no good..."RHO: "You could try bidding something else."LHO: *sigh* "I think i'll try 1NT" I held a 9-count with five decent clubs. After partner's lead declarer asks which contract she's playing. 1NT doubled, we reply. During the play declarer helps me to establish my club suit, my partner has to discard and goes in for a tank. After 20 seconds declarer says: "I'm thinking about calling the director, you're not allowed to think that long." 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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