dickiegera Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 [hv=pc=n&n=sq6haj62dakqcat65&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=2np3hd]133|200|3 Hearts alerted as transfer[/hv] What is best bid by North? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BunnyGo Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 I'll turn the cube. If partner has at least 2 hearts and any tricks he'll sit, otherwise he can run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggwhiz Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 I'll turn the cube. If partner has at least 2 hearts and any tricks he'll sit, otherwise he can run. Agreed. I would triple if I could. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmcw Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 Agreed. I would triple if I could. Ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 It doesn't hurt to discuss these auctions. Our agreements are: 3♠ = 3/4-card spade support, not 5 hearts3NT = no spade support, bad hearts (a 2NT opener is assumed to have at least one heart honour, without that you probably have to invent a 3rd spade)Pass = something decent in hearts, inviting partner to redoubleRedouble = please pass unless you have something unusual (e.g. 6 spades, 1 heart and a 0-count) So for me this is a pass, rather than a redouble, but that is by agreement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 I'll turn the cube. If partner has at least 2 hearts and any tricks he'll sit, otherwise he can run.Hey !!! That's a backgammon term. Anyhow xx here for me playing BG or bridge. However, if PD passes with 2 small ♥ it may be possible to be set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BunnyGo Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 It doesn't hurt to discuss these auctions. Our agreements are: 3♠ = 3/4-card spade support, not 5 hearts3NT = no spade support, bad hearts (a 2NT opener is assumed to have at least one heart honour, without that you probably have to invent a 3rd spade)Pass = something decent in hearts, inviting partner to redoubleRedouble = please pass unless you have something unusual (e.g. 6 spades, 1 heart and a 0-count) So for me this is a pass, rather than a redouble, but that is by agreement. Yes, very good point. My most recent partnership had the agreement: 3♠ = 3/4 card spade support not 5 hearts3NT = undiscussed, but would assume at the table it showed extra-values but no desire to play 3♥XXPass=2 spades, no extras, no desire to play 3♥XXXX = a desire to play opposite xx of hearts and an invitational+ hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 I would never want to play redoubled 3♥ vs pd's xx♥ with this hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 I would also prefer to xx on this hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoshy Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 We have a below average 2NT opening and a slightly better than average heart holding. Why exactly are people redoubling? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeegan Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 We have a below average 2NT opening and a slightly better than average heart holding. Why exactly are people redoubling? :P You are telling with the redouble: a) I don't have spades with you. b) I have four decent hearts behind the doubler, so don't sweat bidding 3NT. c) If you have some modest heart holding and some high cards, YOU figure out how 3♥ redoubled will play. Your hand is thereby closely defined by high cards and major suit distribution (probably 2-4). Let partner figure out what to do and place the contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 (edited) What is bestsystemic bid by North?Altered your post because others have covered the debate on what is "best" for those who prefer to have 3-card support for the spade suit in order to bid 3 spades; and that is reasonable. However, we use 3S as a "go-bid", which tells partner it is O.K. to follow through with any original plan she had. I either have 3 in spades, or heart stoppers. If partner has six spades, she was making a mild slam try (no texas). If she only has 5, and the opps raise spades she can double or pass (pass if she had crap and was going to pass 3S). Redouble would be a surprise heart holding which really would like to try 3HXX, and the given hand isn't it. Pass would deny 3 spade cards AND deny adequate heart stop(s). The advantage to this non-standard treatment comes when partner can bid 3NT with only 5 spades and no heart stop, thus keeping the "mild slam try" 4S bid ---which she couldn't have available if the eight-card fit were known and she had no heart stop. Edited October 31, 2011 by aguahombre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinidad Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 This is a matter of agreement and my agreement is close to Aguahombre's. I would bid 3♠, saying that I am not worried about the hearts and that we can just bid as if RHO had passed. A redouble would show a 5 card suit. A pass would deny a (decent) heart stop. Rik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yu18772 Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 I would just pass - XX for me is 5 or very good 4 (AKQ style). Pass denies 3 or more spades for me, and partner can figure out what would be best.I dont have a great hand, and the chances that partner has a weak hand just went up.http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 Doesn't look like a xx to me. I prefer some spots to go along with my AJxx. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 Yeah I think XX is very bad with only 4 to the AJ and no spots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfay Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 XX is a good way to go down in 3♥XX when I'm cold for slam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 I would pass. Better still if you play this shows no 3 spades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 Pass, the suit is poor quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raff90 Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 I would bid 3♠ showing no ♠ Fit and ♥ Stopper... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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