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[billw55]

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IMP pairs. 4♠ is cold. Should south take the push holding ♠A6? Should north find a call other than 3♠? Both? Any other comments?

[Bbradley62]

At the risk of sounding Lurpoa-like, NS need to have a partnership agreement as to what 3♠ means. If it's forcing, South cannot pass; if it's not forcing, North must find a different bid.

 

Edit: But, if I have to pick one, North should expect South to have a balanced or semi-balanced minimum (for his pass over East's double), so North should just bid 4♠.

Edited October 28, 2011 by Bbradley62

[neilkaz]

I blame north who can sometimes expect to make game even if his KJ♣ are worthless...he's 6421 and has a fine 6 card suit and fits opener's suit as well.

 

I presume 3♠ was played as NF or this wouldn't be posted? If indeed it was NF, north should find a forcing call or just bid 4♠

[ggwhiz]

North 100%. If pard opened 1♣ instead of 1♦ I could understand bidding only 3♠ but barely at MP's and would still bid game at IMPs.

[gwnn]

i <3 6-4s, you should too! :) esp with a 4 card fit for pard.

[P_Marlowe]

North.

 

North knowes, that he has an opening bid and a 9 card diamond fit.

Playing standard methods 3S showes only inv. values, unless N/S

happen to play WJS - in which case the 3S bid would forcing, but

even than ... concealing the diamond fit is worth 100%.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe.

[han]

North invited with a GF.

[ahydra]

North needs to blast 4S. He has a very good hand for it, and 3S isn't forcing now the auction has got competitive.

 

ahydra

[TWO4BRIDGE]

I know I'm going to get in big trouble with this one:

 

3♥ self-splinter... showing a good 6+ card Sp suit. You still have an opportunity to raise Diam if Sp doesn't work out.

 

The T/O DBL showed Hts/Cl.

Partner didn't make a Support RDBL, so he has at most 2 cards.

[billw55]

For those asking about the agreement on 3♠, this was a pickup partnership, so no agreement beyond "2/1 ok p". And certainly nothing about self-splinters, although I will file that idea for future reference.

[ArtK78]

North has a game force. So if 3♠ was not forcing, it was a clear error.

 

If 3♠ was forcing, then the error was South's. But I am betting that 3♠ was not forcing. So the error is North's.

[nigel_k]

I would have accepted the invite with the South hand. It has good spade support, the ♣Q may well be useful and the diamond holding works if partner has a partial fit there but is also not too bad if partner has downgraded a little due to short diamonds.

 

But certainly North gets most of the blame because 3♠ ought to be invitational if undiscussed.

[ArtK78]

I would have accepted the invite with the South hand. It has good spade support, the ♣Q may well be useful and the diamond holding works if partner has a partial fit there but is also not too bad if partner has downgraded a little due to short diamonds.

 

But certainly North gets most of the blame because 3♠ ought to be invitational if undiscussed.

I suppose one could come up with a worse hand for South to hold in the context of this auction, but his actual hand is really quite bad.

 

Qx is an awful club holding with RHO implying clubs and LHO bidding clubs. And the hand is minimal enough to begin with.

 

Give North 6-2-3-2 without the ♦Q and 4♠ is a no play contract. But North would still have his 3♠ call.

 

If 3♠ is invitational, I would pass. And I do not think it is close.

[nigel_k]

Give North 6-2-3-2 without the ♦Q and 4♠ is a no play contract. But North would still have his 3♠ call.

KQJxxx xx 10xx KJ is definitely a 2♠ call for me.