bd71 Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 [hv=pc=n&s=saj4hak2dqckq8743&d=s&v=0&b=11&a=1cp1hp]133|200[/hv] What the bleep do I bid now? A good partner I haven't played much with suggested a jump-shift to 2♠. I would assume that shows 4, but even so, is that maybe the least bad lie here? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 If you don't have tools to handle the hand of death, then you're stuck with creativity. 2♠ may work, but could also turn into a disaster if partner holds a 4 card ♠. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 2S looks good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 2S, we might encounter problems if partner is 4-4 in the majors, but I still think it's a better bid than 2D which just seems misdescriptive. Of course artificial methods would help here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordontd Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 3♦/4♦, according to agreement, will avoid you playing in spades when hearts are better, but will also probably lock you into hearts when NT might be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Natural 2NT buries clubs, but avoids problems if partner has 4♠, sometimes your hand it is too good for 2NT, but the stiff queen ain't that great anyway. I think I'd bid 2♠ with this collection, but 2NT is a close second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWO4BRIDGE Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 [hv=pc=n&s=saj4hak2dqckq8743&d=s&v=0&b=11&a=1cp1hp]133|200[/hv] What the bleep do I bid now? 2S! as a GF gadget ( Sp may be artificial ) over 1H responses ( as suggested by gnasher awhile back but doesn't claim credit for originality ): 1C - 1H2S! - 2NT! ( asks )??.. 3C = long Cl; Sp was artificial.. 3D! = ( other minor ) 4 cards Sp.. 3H = 3 cards Hts, 5+ Cl, Sp was artificial 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mck4711 Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Hand calls for creativity. There are several options:3♣: IMO hand is too strong for 3♣ - though you may want to overlook ur stiff Q♦.4♦: Only 3card-support, but very good ones.2NT: stiff Q is disturbing2♠: Only 3cards This hand is like "democracy": It is a bad political system, but the best out of the bad ones. I prefer 2♠. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggwhiz Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 I used to play that 3♦ shows exactly this shape and range but not in my current partnership. Similarly, 3♠ would show the 1-3-3-6 hand. Today I bid 2♠ and if we land in the 4-3 it will be at least playable and may be the best spot, ie opposite ♠KQxx, ♥Qxxx, ♦Jxx, ♣Jx for all the MP's 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bd71 Posted October 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 For those bidding 2♠, how will you respond to partner's 3♠? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggwhiz Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 For those bidding 2♠, how will you respond to partner's 3♠? 4♣ and hope to land in a 5-3 ♥ fit if there is one. Oops, on 2nd thought, 4♥ and let pard pick. She might take the 1st one for a slam try in spades period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 I'd bid 2NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tolvyrj Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Ugly situation; if prd would not pass to 3 ♣( as s/he shld not do) that would be best. 4♥ would require 1 more card in ♥. 2♠ is dangerous because its higher suit than ♥ and we could be moysian in 4 level and have 5-3 ♥ as a side suit. 2Nt with singleton Q is also unatractive bid, prd raises to 3 Nt 3532 hand.Im not saying 2 ♦ is clearly a best bid, but lets hope prd wont pass it and turns out to have a 5 card ♥ suit. If s/he bids 3 Nt to 2 ♦ u can always bid 4♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordontd Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 For those bidding 2♠, how will you respond to partner's 3♠?More to the point, is partner prohibited from bidding 4♠? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 Over 3S I bid 4H, over 4S I pass. This seems clear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 Gnasher and his teammates seem to have these problems well in hand... here is the "Scoltock Adjunct": 2♦ artificial, 2♥ asks, after which: 2♠ = 2♦ was a natural reverse2NT= " with spade stopper3♣ = 6-3 in ♣ and ♥3♦ = not sure; maybe natural reverse with more shape3♥= hand too good to raise to 4♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 (...) Of course artificial methods would help here. How about natural ones? 2C 2D3C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordontd Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 How about natural ones? 2C 2D3CYou play a natural 2C? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 You play a natural 2C?I do...but this hand does not qualify. 1C - 1D; 1H - 1S; 2C - 2H; 3C would be ok though. Opener shows 18-20 with clubs, Responder <9 with hearts. Easy game... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxhong Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 I usually bid 1S as one round forcing here and 2S as C one suiter 6+C, 16+, 3C shows invitational value with strong clubs. I think that's the easiest treatment here. [hv=pc=n&s=saj4hak2dqckq8743&d=s&v=0&b=11&a=1cp1hp]133|200[/hv] What the bleep do I bid now? A good partner I haven't played much with suggested a jump-shift to 2♠. I would assume that shows 4, but even so, is that maybe the least bad lie here? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 You play a natural 2C? If I have clubs, yes. /irony OFF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbenvic Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 I usually bid 1S as one round forcing here and 2S as C one suiter 6+C, 16+, 3C shows invitational value with strong clubs. I think that's the easiest treatment here. Most partners I play use a j/s to show 4 card support of ♥, so 2nt here is used as GF, catch all bid (denying 4♠, 4♥ & if 4♦ then not 5♣) partner bids 3c as an asks - with 1 partner 3♠ now shows 3316 and all other bids natural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 I usually bid 1S as one round forcing here....We don't have xxhong's 2S jump convention, but we do have 1S as 99 percent forcing (1/1/1), and would do that with the given hand. We later jump in hearts if possible, which only shows three of them and implies long clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 Intensly dislike 2S. It is nice to have a gadget here. The one we used was a 2NT gadget over which partner relayed with 3C to find out the hand type.Not playing this or something sil\milar I would bid 3C, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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