123600 Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 Bidding was Pass,1♣,X, 1♠ XIs the second X a takeout or Neg X 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BunnyGo Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 Shows spades generally. If not, the opponents will psych a 1 spade bid here. If I were forced to pick between your two choices, then my answer would be: I don't understand the functional difference between it being takeout or negative. They seem the same to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 A takeout double is a negative double (and vice versa). A penalty double is a positive double (a term one rarely encounters in the bridge literature but it does exist). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sasioc Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 X here should show 4 spades and a 2S bid shows 5 spades. As the other responders have mentioned, a negative double is the same thing as a takeout double (and this is not one, although it is not exactly a penalty double either). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyman Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 X here should show 4 spades and a 2S bid shows 5 spades. As the other responders have mentioned, a negative double is the same thing as a takeout double (and this is not one, although it is not exactly a penalty double either). I would X with 5 rags and bid 2S with a more robust spade holding, but yeah same idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 I would X with 5 rags and bid 2S with a more robust spade holding, but yeah same idea. Same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sasioc Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 I would X with 5 rags and bid 2S with a more robust spade holding, but yeah same idea. Sure, I didn't mean that *every* hand with 5 spades should bid 2 spades, just that the 2 spade bid showed 5. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Dbl is usually played as penalty oriented, showing ♠s, because many players psych 1♠ in such auctions (read: the frequency of this being a psych is much higher than average). This guards against clowns. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mck4711 Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 penalty. 4+ cards in ♠ and 6+ HCP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggwhiz Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 I hate stolen bids in general but this double is the only one that I play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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