Lurpoa Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 When I started playing bridge, I was brought up playing "Standard Acol". It was a pretty standard 4 card major system with a 12-14 NT, stayman, gerber, blackwood and gambling 3NT, the rest were natural. We were taught to always open the minor with a 4M4m hand (except when 4441). Needless to say when I moved to England for university, it was a bit of a culture shock to find everyone opening the major with a 4324 16 count. After a while with Helene's help, I then discovered that most pairs didn't even know which suit their partner would open with that 4324 16 count :P. But yeah, if you don't play a weak NT and 4 card majors, please don't call it plain acol :) ♥♥♥ Yes, but you are talking about standard ENGLISH acol. Please Google it.In Basic Dutch Acol, the 1NTopener = 15-17. ♥♥♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Presumably she meant to say 'Also in England they say "relay" when they mean "bye-stand". When they mean "relay" they say "sharing".' Yeah, should have checked my post better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 According to Baron Barclay: It is also possible to run a game with an even number of tables without a skip. This movement is called a BYE-STAND AND RELAY. One set of boards is out of play and on a bye-stand each round and two tables (usually table 1 and the highest-numbered table) relay boards. During a relay the two tables exchange their boards during the play of each round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 oh well. it's sad that you don't like it here. be sure to write when you go back to america won't you? I think you must have a pretty thin skin if you were that offended by my post! ;) I don't see why it's backwards to call it by the suit that's bid. [transfers] It seems backwards to me, especially because when people say "4-suit transfers" they mean transfers to four suits, not that four suit bids are used as transfers (and indeed this is usually not the case). Also the "red suits" could be transferring to something else besides the majors, so the term lacks definition. Would you ask a partner if he'd like to play South African Texas by offering: "Minor-suit transfers at the four level?" Presumably. Though it's hard to see what there is to object to about calling it "sharing" when two tables share a set of boards. That is OK; it is the "relay" boards that are not being relayed but are in fact sitting out that are misnamed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonFa Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 I have found Acol to be a generic term that covers just about anything a person wants to play and it is best to sit down with partner and and discuss what they think it means. When I first learned the mechanics of the game it meant: Length then strength, bidding up the line with equal length, weak NT and strong 2s. But that was probably the book I and my partner were using to learn the game. This is a good start to find out a bit more: http://www.bridgeguys.com/ACOL/acol_bridge.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 Note that the alerts and announcements list referenced in that link are based on EBU regulations, so they don't apply in other jurisdictions, such as the ACBL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurpoa Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 When I first learned the mechanics of the game it meant: Length then strength, bidding up the line with equal length, weak NT and strong 2s. ♥♥♥ That is about right..... Those are the Basics, and "open 4card major" is a result of that.Also what you said about sitting down with partner to agree, is right for whatever system you play. Right ?! ♥♥♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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