Wackojack Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 [hv=pc=n&w=sat852haj87d2cakt&e=sq7hqt9643d743c52&d=w&v=e&b=16&a=1spp2dd3dppp]266|200[/hv]Should East have found a bid over 3♦?Should West have found a second take out double? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 East already showed 0-5, now his/her partner asked him/her to bid again and he has a 6-card suit and the Q in partner's suit and he won't move a bit? I blame East. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mich-b Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 East fell asleep. Over 3♦ he should probably bid 4♥. Even 3♥ seems to be an underbid. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWO4BRIDGE Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 Seeing both hands, a 2H reverse ( instead of the DBL ) looks easy...... but would I make it just seeing my hand alone ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternaluke Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 East must make a move after that strong action by opener. West is strong enough to freebid a take out when pard could be empty. With my regular pard West would already know 2-3 card spade fit as well since we use forcing nt to escape a complete misfit. 4 Hearts seems a healthy bid 4 for working queens a point for a 6 card suit and 2 points for shortness (sure it is in partners first suit, but you can see losers disappearing on partners spades if need be). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y66 Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 East must consider what his partner can have for his double, then bid 4H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 I would have bid 2H. However the failure to bid over 3D with a 6 card H suit in this auction is quite incredible. East 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 double by west is 100% clear and bidding 2♥ deserves -800 with +110 avaible in clubs. Only question is if East should bid or 3 or 4♥ 3 looks like enough, I mena, he would obviously jump to 3 hearts had his RHO passed, but jumping to the 4 level is probably too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmcw Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 West has described his hand well by making a VUL X at his second turn opposite a passing partner, he can do no more.In the context of the auction East has a monster, A likely 10 card ♥ fit, known ♦ shortness from opener, a ruffing value and a supporting honor in ♠. 4♥ all day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 I would have responded 1NT every day of the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 1. No strong feelings about pass versus 1N. 2. Nice aggressive double by West. WD! 3. Pass (?!) East needs to assume the role of a bridge player instead of a potted fern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 [hv=pc=n&w=sat852haj87d2cakt&e=sq7hqt9643d743c52&d=w&v=e&b=16&a=1spp2dd3dppp]266|200[/hv]Should East have found a bid over 3♦?Should West have found a second take out double?Q1] with 2 working queens and having passed 1♠ initially I think E could risk 3♥Q1] same as previous reply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 Passing 3♦ is absolutely criminal. If this is a serious partnership, West should have a real discussion with East concerning hand evaluation based on the bidding. 100% blame to a sleeping East. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel_k Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 Agree with everyone else - East 100%. I would have responded 1NT but East has a clear 4♥ the second time and not bidding even 3♥ is terrible. Having said that, if I was West and playing with a beginner or known underbidder I would probably double a third time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyman Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 Would have bid 1N the first time. Had I passed for whatever reason, I'd have bid 4H the second time. 100% is not enough blame to assign east here imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 Agree with everyone else - East 100%. I would have responded 1NT but East has a clear 4♥ the second time and not bidding even 3♥ is terrible. I am fine with passing 1S but yeah, even just bidding 3H would be completely terrible. Partner, red/white, after we showed 0-5, doubled 2D. Obviously he has extras to go with his stiff diamond. But we don't even need extras! Kxxxx AJxx x Axx is a good game. Pretty cherry picked, but it's also only a 12 count, which partner cannot have. Even a hand where the SQ and HQ are both ueless, like Axxxx AKxx x Axx is like a 100 % game. Indeed with 2632 and a 0 count, bidding 4H would certainly be reasonable. Having 3 diamonds opposite partners stiff to go with our 6 hearts is super powerful, and then we have the great Qx of spades and QT9 of hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 2. Nice aggressive double by West. WD! Do you really think West's DBL was agressive ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Do you really think West's DBL was agressive ? Slightly, yes. Its opposite a hand that cannot take a call over 1♠. How much of the deck do you think we have, and whats our future if partner cannot balance if LHO passes? But I like double because I have such great support for hearts and clubs and my hand is useful when partner has spades, and also when he doesn't. See the OP or x xxx xxx QJxxxx. In other words, if I had AJxxx ATxx xx AK I doubt Id be bidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 I remember a thread where Fred said (or i thought he said) that in their pdship DBL would show 4♦+3♥ rather than vice versa, and that he would expect his pd to bid ♥ suit if he has 4 of them. Am i totally confusing this auction with something else or was the auction he refered was similar to this ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Ace, you are confused with the auction 1S - p - 1NT - (2D).. Here Fred said he'd typically bid 2H with 5413. Of course this auction is completely different. By the way, you meant to write 4♣ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted September 24, 2011 Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 Ace, you are confused with the auction 1S - p - 1NT - (2D).. Here Fred said he'd typically bid 2H with 5413. Of course this auction is completely different. By the way, you meant to write 4♣ Ty Han, and yes sorry, i meant 4♣, i forgot their suit was ♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted September 25, 2011 Report Share Posted September 25, 2011 After dbl, East's hand becomes a MONSTER. 4♥ at the very least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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