mrdct Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 [hv=pc=n&s=st9542h75dk5caj63&w=sak8hajt862daq6c8&n=s76hq4dt9873ckt54&e=sqj3hk93dj42cq972&d=s&v=e&b=3&a=1n(8-10%20balanced)2d(Single-suited%20Major)4dp(Agreed%20BIT%20%5Bapologised%20when%20putting%20dummy%20down%5D)p4hppp]399|300[/hv]This hand came up on the first night of the Victorian State Teams Championships ("the Pennant") in the qualifying phase. West is a multiple state open team representative and quite a good player. West is also good friends with both North and South. Stop cards are not in use in Australia and bids above 3NT are not alerted. The 8-10 1NT range was pre-alerted in addition to being alerted by North when it came up. Nobody asked about the 4♦ bid; which was somewhat fortunate for North-South as without the intervention 4♦ would've been RKCB but they hadn't explicitly discussed whether that was off after intervention but it seems they were on the same wavelength. There was a noticable hesitation by East after the 4♦ bid and he apologised and acknowledged the break in tempo as he was putting dummy down. After winning the ♠ lead in hand and playing a ♥ to the K, declarer got trumps wrong and then claimed 10 tricks conceding a ♣ and a ♦ after which South made a tentative suggestion that he might like to have the TD look at the board, to which West represented that he had a clear 4♥ bid at teams with a mini-NT on his right and a preempt on his left. North quickly agreed with West and the board was scored-up without any involvement of the TD. If the TD had been called to adjudicate on the board, how do you think he should've ruled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossoneri Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 Did West have any other methods to show a strong single-suited major hand? What would X first then bidding a suit show? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel_k Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 The methods are a bit strange. You wouldn't want to play against an 8-10 NT without a penalty double available but if so, West was taking a big risk that 2♦ might be passed out when partner is weak with diamonds. But I can't imagine pass being a logical alternative with West under any circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 I wouldn't Pass 4♦ and I don't see how the hesitation suggests 4♥ over an alternative action (presumably double). I would rule that Pass is not a logical alternative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrdct Posted September 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 After winning the ♠ lead in hand and playing a ♥ to the K, declarer got trumps wrong and then claimed 10 tricks conceding a ♣ and a ♦ So it seems right to let the 4♥ bid go, as North-South did at the table once they'd had a closer look at West's hand, but how about this claim? Adding a little bit more to what happened at the table, after it had been scored as -620 and the cards were out of the next board, South jokingly complained to North, "You needed to underlead your ♦A to my Kx so I could get a ♦ ruff and take it one down". West then said to South, "Did you have ♦Kx? In that case I make 11". Not wanting to get into a discussion about whether or not a player of the calibre of West would adopt a "careless or inferior" line to lose a ♦ trick, South conceded the extra trick and re-entered the score as -650. As it turned-out the extra IMP for East-West was worth a VP, so at the end of match and still within the correction period stipulated in the regulations for the event, North-South queried with the TD whether or not he could look at the board and, if applicable adjust the score back to -620 as originally claimed. What should the TD do now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordontd Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 What should the TD do now?Tell them to stop making their own rulings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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