kgr Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 [hv=pc=n&s=sat98432h2dcjt432]133|100[/hv]IMP's (Teams); All Green.RHO Dealer and open 2NT.(2NT)-?Your system:- 3♦=Transfer ♥ or ♠&♣- 3♥=Transfer ♠ or ♣&♦- 4♠- Or higher?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 4♠. showing clubs has little merit, you only want to play in clubs if you can somehow find out for sure that partner has 4 clubs, we won't manage that. Also, goofing around on the 3 level is not something for me on 7-5s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 4S, horrible system btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 4S and I agree, I would not use this system if you paid me. Well, I guess it depends how much..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 awful system, 4♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 System is fine. Who overcalls 2NT anyway? I'll use the gadget, as the hand plays very well opposite a 1444. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farrnbach Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 4S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted September 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 [hv=pc=n&s=sat98432h2dcjt432&w=s65h6543da43xxc65&n=sqjht98xdk76xckqx&e=sk7hakqjdqjt9ca98&d=e&v=0&b=14&a=2n3h(transfer%20S%20or%20C%26D)dpp3spp4hppd5dppdppp]399|300[/hv]Not 100% sure about the hands.I did lead ♠A because I expected partner to have a singleton and 5♦X did go -1.4♠ would have worked better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 your partner bid like an idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 why is the system so horrible? lots of good pairs play suction against 1NT and if you don't want to spend a long time discussing defense to 2NT you might as well just agree to play the same as against 1NT. Who cares, you almost never want to overcall over 2NT anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxhong Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 3D and later bid 4S to show this extreme 7-5 two suiter. [hv=pc=n&s=sat98432h2dcjt432]133|100[/hv]IMP's (Teams); All Green.RHO Dealer and open 2NT.(2NT)-?Your system:- 3♦=Transfer ♥ or ♠&♣- 3♥=Transfer ♠ or ♣&♦- 4♠- Or higher?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 :P why is the system so horrible? It's not. Just that some people always find a way to pick up on methods :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 why is the system so horrible? lots of good pairs play suction against 1NT and if you don't want to spend a long time discussing defense to 2NT you might as well just agree to play the same as against 1NT. Who cares, you almost never want to overcall over 2NT anyway. Competing over 1NT is different from competiting over 2NT. After 2NT it is almost always their hand. If you give responder the option to double an artificial call that denies the suit bid you certainly make life a lot easier. 3H and 3S absolutely have to be natural in these auctions. Of course, if you are of the opinion that bridge is for fun and who cares, then indeed the methods are fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted September 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 why is the system so horrible? lots of good pairs play suction against 1NT and if you don't want to spend a long time discussing defense to 2NT you might as well just agree to play the same as against 1NT. Who cares, you almost never want to overcall over 2NT anyway.Competing over 1NT is different from competiting over 2NT. After 2NT it is almost always their hand. If you give responder the option to double an artificial call that denies the suit bid you certainly make life a lot easier. 3H and 3S absolutely have to be natural in these auctions.Agree with both statements.We play same system over 2NT as over strong 1NT. Maybe not best, but that is easiest. Over 2NT it is almost never done, so we think it is not that important.(and in the example given I could have bid 4S). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 Its not that your system is horrible----it is the fact that you triedto use it with a hand that had only a tiny chance that accuracy wouldpay off more than preemtion. If one of your small clubs had been the QI would have used your system with no qualms but overall your hand isso weak defensively that the preemtive bid of 4s is a stand out(not because it is the most accurate) but because it is hugely preemptiveand has the best chance to cause the opponents to err and has a great % chance of being the best your side can hope for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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