Finch Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 OK, I admit we did this to our opponents, but as one of them was gnasher I'll pretend I'm posting on his behalf rather than gloating. [hv=pc=n&e=skq6hkjt4d532ck42&s=sjthaq5dat6cj8653&w=s95432h762dqj974c&n=sa87h983dk8caqt97&d=e&v=n&b=2&a=1cp1hp1sp2cd2d3cppp]399|300[/hv] 1♣ = natural, or 11-14 balanced without 4 diamonds, or any 18- bad 20 balanced (including those with 5 diamonds)1♥ = 4+ spades, may be very light1♠ = unbalanced with 3 spades, or a hand that would have rebid 1NT in the standard auction 1C - 1S - ?2♣ = sign-off in 2D, or invitational with 5 spades, or some game forces2♦ = poor clubs, not the unbalanced spade raise At the other table the auction was1♣ - P - 1♥ - P1♠ - P - P - 1NTP - 3NT all pass (first 3 bids had much the same meanings as at our table) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 North 75%. South could have passed 2♦ with nothing, and North knows South clubs are not that great so where are his/her HCP's? Of course the 25% missing goes to E/W who managed to make 5 bids with only 15 HCP's and whatever I missed form what South could have done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 obviously south should show some strength. a 2♠ UCB would do the trick imo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 I blame Frances. :) I think NS both made more or less percentage calls which did not lead to the best contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 When the points are roughly evenly split and both north and south are balanced, this can certainly happen. I agree though that south should have bid more strongly after north doubled 2C. In my opinion both 2H and 2S should be cuebids, I don't have an agreement about the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petterb Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 100% North for not overcalling 2♣ first round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 I can see pasing the first round as n in the face ofan unlimited auction especially v/nv. The problemseems to be s not bidding 2h (s cant suddenly havea 1h overcall they failed to make) to show club support and searching for nt. after s bids 2hbidding 3n should be easy for N. I blame s for not thinking about in context biddingand I congratulate N for disciplined original pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 I didn't realize North had doubled an artificial 2♣ which shows clubs, so South was merely competing. If there was a way for South to show strength then that's the bid and not 3♣. 75% South. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 100% North for not overcalling 2♣ first round.In this partnership a first-round 2♣ would have been Michaels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petterb Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 In this partnership a first-round 2♣ would have been Michaels.Then 50% North and 50% South for bad system agreements. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfedrick Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 Good hand for the weak NT in our match. 1NT-(P)-2H-(P)2S-(P)-P-(3C)AP ATB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMorris Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 (In the flight below) we also had a weak NT and they passed out 2 ♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 South has a remarkable hand facing a DBL of an artificial 2♣. 3♣ is merely competitive. South would bid 3♣ with an ace less. 2♥ can not be natural, having passed over 1♣. A good alternative to avoid a misunderstanding is to bid 3♦, which gets both your strength and your fit across.If partner does not have the values for game, you would not have been allowed to play 3♣ anyway and 4♣ must be reasonably safe. Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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