Phil Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 MPs R/W. KJ9xxxxxx x x xx RHO opens 2H (wide ranging style). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 First of all I wouldn't pass, since all pass is more likely than it seems at first glance and obviously rates to be a disaster, and even if it doesn't we have nightmare bidding problems like 2H P 4H 5D back to us, where we would have given anything to have mentioned spades earlier, or even 2H P 4H X and now we have no idea how many spades we can make. 3S and 4S both seem like significant overbids/misdescriptions of my hand. I guess I have to settle for 2S and see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slmplicity Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 This would be a good hand for 4H/S showing different 4S bids, but in the abscence of any such agreement I think you just have to settle for 2S and hope its not passed out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 Easy pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 Hehe - you have 24 Zars Justin - that's only 1 short of an opening bid and we could upgrade it a point for "good honour concentration"... :) :D :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted September 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 This was the last board to the event. I overcalled 2♠, planning on pulling partner's penalty doubles as high as necessary. 3♠ is clearly wrong, and 4♠ feels kind of random. I also think this is an interesting opening bid problem r/w at MPs. Partner held AQ KT9x Jxxx Kxx. I'm not sure what he does in the balance seat, although at the table RHO bid 3♥ and this was an easy 3N call which I pulled to 4♠. If RHO raises hearts, I also think he has a tough decision over my 3♠ balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semeai Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 If I pass and RHO raises hearts, I also think he has a tough decision over my 3♠ balance. You left out the underlined bit, which caused me to reread the sentence an embarrassing number of times. It is a tough decision between pass and 3NT over a 3♠ balance. KJ-sixth plus a side card is likely a trick short of 3NT, but partner would probably stay out of things with that. KJ-seventh plus a side card probably makes for a good 3NT (depending on the side card). J-seventh plus two side cards is also possible, and wouldn't be so good for anything above 3♠. Added: What about 2♥-P-3♥-P;P-4♠? Certainly sounds funny, at least. Also, as you said for the direct version, kind of random. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted September 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 Yes, sorry that wasn't clear, although it is implied by the word 'balance'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 MPs R/W. KJ9xxxxxx x x xx RHO opens 2H (wide ranging style). Is this a trick question? It's the most obivous pass ever, to be followed by some ridiculous number of spades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted September 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 Is this a trick question? It's the most obivous pass ever, to be followed by some ridiculous number of spades. I never thought a bridge post could be an oxymoron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 If RHO raises hearts, I also think he has a tough decision over my 3♠ balance. After 2H P 3H P P I am not bidding 3S, so luckily I don't have that problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 After 2H P 3H P P I am not bidding 3S, so luckily I don't have that problem. lol yeah seriously. Partner marked with the best hand at the table or close to it, and we have KJ9th of spades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 Hehe - you have 24 Zars Justin - that's only 1 short of an opening bid and we could upgrade it a point for "good honour concentration"... :) :D :lol: Haha, I guess a lot of preemptive hands are opening bids in Zar count :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VM1973 Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 Hehe - you have 24 Zars Justin - that's only 1 short of an opening bid and we could upgrade it a point for "good honour concentration"... :) :D :lol:That was exactly my thought, really, and I still reached the "pass" decision. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted September 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 I overcalled 2♠, but with 9, even at these colors, the only problem scenario is a 4♥ blast on your left. It continued: (2♥) - 2♠ - (3♥) - 3NPass - 4♠ - (5♥) - x I didn't like it at all but I passed. Partner held AQ KT9x KJxx Kxx. LHO Tx Qx AT9xx AQxx. (Some 5♥!) 5♥ looks like the par spot since they have a double fit. However, the play was mangled and declarer went for 800 which was fortunate since there were a few 790's our way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 With something like Ax Q10xxxxxx Qx x and it goes 1C - (1S), GIB will make a negative doubler because he isn't strong enough to bid. On the next round GIB will jump to game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VM1973 Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 I think a lot of it boils down to philosophy of how much strength you need to act over a preempt. From my way of thinking, there's no doubt that the hand qualifies for an opening 1-bid if you wanted to make one. Nevertheless, just holding an opening hand I am not immediately inclined to bid over the opponent's preempt. I think you should have better than an opening hand to make a move as your partner should balance if he has an opener. If RHO opens 2♥ and you hold: ♠AQ432♥32♦A432♣32 Do you bid? Would the scoring or vulnerability change your opinion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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