wyman Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 In the spirit of Inquiry's defense series, here's an actual hand from last night on which I took an inferior line of play (regardless of whether it worked). Please A/E give it a day or so [or spoil if you are so inclined] for the B/I crowd to think about this one and shame me with their declaring prowess: Opps carding is UDCA. Plan the play. [hv=pc=n&s=sj43hakj53d3c8643&w=sht2dac&n=sq852hq9864dk742c&e=sh7d5c&d=s&v=b&b=7&a=2hd4hppp&p=h2h4h7had3dad2d5ht]399|300[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonFa Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 In the spirit of Inquiry's defense series, here's an actual hand from last night on which I took an inferior line of play (regardless of whether it worked). Please A/E give it a day or so [or spoil if you are so inclined] for the B/I crowd to think about this one and shame me with their declaring prowess: Opps carding is UDCA. Plan the play. [hv=pc=n&s=sj43hakj53d3c8643&w=sht2dac&n=sq852hq9864dk742c&e=sh7d5c&d=s&v=b&b=7&a=2hd4hppp&p=h2h4h7had3dad2d5ht]399|300[/hv]Tough problem, well for this B/I anyway. Here's my thoughts.... Looks like we've got 2 tricks by winning ♥10, I'm not sure where yet, but we'll have to win it. We could make 6 trumps by cross ruffing which means we're one short. There's no chance of establishing a minor so it looks like we have to make a spade. Looking at what we've got not a very enticing prospect. So what do we know: There are 6 spades outstanding. West's double implies that he doesn't have 5 as he would bid them and he is expected to have at least 3. East has played the ♦5 on our lead which we'll take as count and an odd number as the is the lowest outstanding Diamond, either 1, 3 or 5. There are 8 outstanding so if he had 1 then West would have have 7 and would almost certainty have bid them. Could be 3 but if it is then East would be 1(2) 1 3 8(7) and we would expect him to bid 5 clubs. It looks like its 5 which makes West 4(3) 2 3 4(5) and East 1(2) 1 5 6(5). Missing spades are AKT96, if they are 4-1 then it looks good and 3-2 I could be in trouble depending on the distribution and I would certainly want West with HHx in that case. I'm reckon we can strip West of his minor's either directly or through a squeeze during the cross rough and end play him and I want to end in dummy to lead a spade through East. So I'm winning 10♥ in hand with the K then: ♣- ruffK♦- ♣♣- ruff♦- ruff♣ - ruff Which I reckon gets me down to ♠Q852 & ♠J43♥J with lead from Dummy Now I lead a small spade. If East wins with and honour I pitch a small spade and he either lead a spade and I'm home or a minor and I win in hand and lead up to Q. If East had both honours I was stuffed anyway. If plays a small spade I put in the Jack and either West is end played and I make the Queen or he exists with a minor which I win and hope he had HHx, which is most likely given all the points he has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 Tough problem, well for this B/I anyway. Here's my thoughts.... Looks like we've got 2 tricks by winning ♥10, I'm not sure where yet, but we'll have to win it. We could make 6 trumps by cross ruffing which means we're one short. There's no chance of establishing a minor so it looks like we have to make a spade. Looking at what we've got not a very enticing prospect. So what do we know: There are 6 spades outstanding. West's double implies that he doesn't have 5 as he would bid them and he is expected to have at least 3. East has played the ♦5 on our lead which we'll take as count and an odd number as the is the lowest outstanding Diamond, either 1, 3 or 5. There are 8 outstanding so if he had 1 then West would have have 7 and would almost certainty have bid them. Could be 3 but if it is then East would be 1(2) 1 3 8(7) and we would expect him to bid 5 clubs. It looks like its 5 which makes West 4(3) 2 3 4(5) and East 1(2) 1 5 6(5). Missing spades are AKT96, if they are 4-1 then it looks good and 3-2 I could be in trouble depending on the distribution and I would certainly want West with HHx in that case. I'm reckon we can strip West of his minor's either directly or through a squeeze during the cross rough and end play him and I want to end in dummy to lead a spade through East. So I'm winning 10♥ in hand with the K then: ♣- ruffK♦- ♣♣- ruff♦- ruff♣ - ruff Which I reckon gets me down to ♠Q852 & ♠J43♥J with lead from Dummy Now I lead a small spade. If East wins with and honour I pitch a small spade and he either lead a spade and I'm home or a minor and I win in hand and lead up to Q. If East had both honours I was stuffed anyway. If plays a small spade I put in the Jack and either West is end played and I make the Queen or he exists with a minor which I win and hope he had HHx, which is most likely given all the points he has. I think u are losing if ♠ honors are split and there is plenty of room for east to hold a ♠ honor. If you win the 2nd♥ in dummy, discard a ♠ on ♦K, and play a ♠ towards J and later play a ♠ to Q. This works when west has HHxx or any 3-3 ♠ split. Basically this covers all the options that your line does in addition of all 3-3♠ regardless of who holds which honor(s). If ♠ honors are split and 4-2 we might make it by ducking the 2nd ♠, but this is unlikely because if east has 2♠ he also showed singleton ♥ he might have bid 4NT or 5m perhaps ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonFa Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 I think u are losing if ♠ honors are split and there is plenty of room for east to hold a ♠ honor. If you win the 2nd♥ in dummy, discard a ♠ on ♦K, and play a ♠ towards J and later play a ♠ to Q. This works when west has HHxx or any 3-3 ♠ split. Basically this covers all the options that your line does in addition of all 3-3♠ regardless of who holds which honor(s). If ♠ honors are split and 4-2 we might make it by ducking the 2nd ♠, but this is unlikely because if east has 2♠ he also showed singleton ♥ he might have bid 4NT or 5m perhaps ? Thanks for the feedback. Of course there was a more fundamental flaw in my thinking - I couldn't add up to 13 in Spades :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyman Posted September 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 At the table, I made an error and placed 4 spades with LHO. Since she didn't lead an honor, I supposed the honors were split and played the J of spades from hand (won by the ace on my left) and then ducked a spade, hoping RHO would have to win the king. This line is far, far inferior to that which MrAce suggested. Pitch a spade on the diamond king and continue as before: jack of spades and either a spade to the Q (playing lefty for both honors) or duck a spade (playing righty for Hx). I actually don't know whether it's better to play LHO for AKxx or for split honors (I suspect split honors). But pitching the spade gives you the added chance of 3-3 spades. You can ruff the 3rd spade in hand and finally score the SQ. On this deal, the spades were 3-3 with honors split. As pointed out in the thread, this is very likely; otherwise, RHO has 10 cards in the minors, and it's likely he'd do something over 4H. We scored -100 for half the matchpoints (the rest of the NS pairs were either -120 or +100, so I assume we took the first 5 hearts in 2 or 3NT and that was the end of that), but this should have been a top had I thought harder about the hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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