TWO4BRIDGE Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 [hv=pc=n&s=sqj6hakjt5dak3cak&n=sa87hq4dt4cqt8753&d=e&v=n&b=2&a=p2cp2d(waiting%2C%20positive)p2hp3cp3dp3sp6nppp]266|200[/hv] Opening lead is ♠3 . Your play.... what's your best line ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flameous Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 I don't quite get this. Maybe I'm missing something obvious but I'm just winning the ace and testing for clubs. If they aren't running, I just have to play for spade trick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmcw Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 6NT looks like a normal contract, played from the normal but wrong side!When ♣ are 3/2 or stiff Jack, everyone not getting a ♠ lead will make 13 tricks, and how likely is it that the lead is from the ♠K., so ducking will likely lose to the King, you wind up with 12 tricks and a poor score. Playing the ♠Ace and running ♣ gets 13 tricks about 70% of the time, I'll take that.Playing the ♠A unblocking ♣ back to dummy in ♥ risks going down when the ♣J is with the ♠K. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 Playing the ♠A unblocking ♣ back to dummy in ♥ risks going down when the ♣J is with the ♠K. Nope, when you cash the AK and someone shows out you just give up a spade. Playing the ace is clearly right, even ignoring that leading from the SK is unusual here which makes RHO more likely to have the king Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onedown Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 Why was this hand posted? Am I supposed to duck the spade for some reason when I am looking at 13 tricks outside without 2 ♠ tricks? As another poster said "Am i missing something here?" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 Why was this hand posted? Am I supposed to duck the spade for some reason when I am looking at 13 tricks outside without 2 ♠ tricks? As another poster said "Am i missing something here?" I think the OP was under the impression that if we grab the ♠A and clubs are 4-1, that we might go down. But as Justin states, this isn't the case. Wrong forum. BEN???!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWO4BRIDGE Posted September 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 I think the OP was under the impression that if we grab the ♠A and clubs are 4-1, that we might go down. But as Justin states, this isn't the case. Wrong forum. BEN???!!!Practically all of you got it right -- you "did the math" before playing at trick 1 -- that's why you are experts . No matter what the Club break you always have 12 tricks. Play the ♠A at trick one... play A K of ♣.... -- If they split , claim 13 tricks. -- If they don't, you must play a 2nd ♠ next , and then claim 12. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Quite a few "finessed" ( I guess because they didn't do the "simple" math ) at trick 1. And if North had bid 3NT ( instead of 3S ), then 13 tricks are cold... as Justin essentially said . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 If I'm such an 'expert' I'd like to think I could bid to a grand here. 7NT by North might be a bit tricky to get to, that would be really good bidding, but I'd be happy with 7NT by South. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmcw Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 Nope, when you cash the AK and someone shows out you just give up a spade. Playing the ace is clearly right, even ignoring that leading from the SK is unusual here which makes RHO more likely to have the king Yes quite correct Justin tx. Was kinda late when I posted :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 In Spain ♠3 promises a honnor, for some weak opponents this can be a 100% guess for playing low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 Do people in Spain always have what they promise? eheheheh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 The ten is an honor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted September 6, 2011 Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 The ten is an honor. Maybe not in Spain. But yes, at MPs, IMPs, Rubber, BAM, win the A and play AK of Clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordontd Posted September 6, 2011 Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 The ten is an honor. Maybe not in Spain. Everywhere. It's defined by the laws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted September 6, 2011 Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 Wow I thought it was a trick question and RHO had ♠T9 while ♣ didn't break. Doing math at trick 1 belongs to intermediate imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_20686 Posted September 6, 2011 Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 You have 12 tricks regardless? If you run the spade and it loses you have 2s 5h 2d 3c=12? Obviously its about the best line for 13 tricks. Line A: Play the ace, this gives you 13 tricks when the club J drops.Line B: Run the spade,: This gives you 13 tricks when the spade wins and the club drops, or when the spade wins and the club doesnt drop you are still massive favourite to win: Just needs LHO to have one of the T9 of spades to go with his spade K, then you have an automatice double squeeze in spades diamonds and clubs if the clubs are with rho, or a black suit squeeze if the clubs are with lho. Since clubs coming in is 73% or so, and you lose half of that vs a gain under half of 27%, line A is a priori better by some 20% or so. However, they are close enough that one might be persuaded by table presence/lead. Some players do virtually always under lead a king vs NT slams if they have one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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