whereagles Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 I actually think 3H as a fit showing jump is probably the closest bid to show the nature of this hand. Strongly disagree. A fit jump shows a suit good for discards. Here you can transform your hearts into xxxxx and slam STILL is hot. The strength of this hand lies on the long spades and the diamond void. Current bidding systems have no way to show this sort of hand because it's rare that such hands will produce a slam. If something, a splinter might come close but other than a specialized bid like, say, 3NT showing a void and weak hand, you simply have to live with missing this slam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 Agree with mikeh, that was a curious post.Yeah, agree with VM to some extent though, I know some experts whose opinion I value much more at the beginning of the evening than at the end, particularly in non serious events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxhong Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 Well, that's your definition of fit showing jumps. The major difficulty for a passed two suiter to show the great support and the shape is that 2/1 is not forcing. If you can't play 2H as one round forcing, you have to have a way to bid a two suiter with a great support and fit showing jump is the only solution. Bridge bidding is not only about source of tricks, it's often a matter of the shape, especially when you have found a great fit, because in that case, source of tricks may not really matter much, shape and potential good cross-ruffing situation is. Strongly disagree. A fit jump shows a suit good for discards. Here you can transform your hearts into xxxxx and slam STILL is hot. The strength of this hand lies on the long spades and the diamond void. Current bidding systems have no way to show this sort of hand because it's rare that such hands will produce a slam. If something, a splinter might come close but other than a specialized bid like, say, 3NT showing a void and weak hand, you simply have to live with missing this slam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_20686 Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 Now as for why I don't fawn all over the big name people here as you both seem to do is because I make a distinction between the opinion of an expert and expert opinion. Expert opinion is something you pay for and it's not something that is offered off the cuff for free in an Internet forum. Even the best experts could make an off the cuff statement that later turns out to be wrong, ill-considered or gets retracted. FYI: There are a number of players on this forum who are Experts by any reasonable definition. A number of players who have played at international level. Below that, there are at least 10 more players on the forums who could expect to be doing well in national level tournaments. Then at least another twenty who are good enough to be amused by equating "life master" and "good player". Seriously, show some respect to the people who offered you opinions on the hand. At least two of the people who have posted on this thread are the big names. Possibly more that I just don't know their RL personas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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