Pre-empted again

[bd71]

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Opponents have destroyed your plan to reverse into spades with their pre-emption. What's your call?

 

Appreciate your thoughts for both a pickup partnership and any relevant special treatments you may have with established partners.

 

This was a pickup partnership. Only remotely relevant discussion on doubles had been that negative/responsive doubles are through 4♥.

[wyman]

X

[bd71]

X

 

Is the standard meaning of this double clear? Is it takeout-ish suggesting spades? Is it penalty?

 

Or is there no accepted "standard" meaning and it's completely subject to partnership agreements?

[JLOGIC]

"Everything" is subject to partnership agreement as lurpoa will tell us. But double should be takeout, playing penalty doubles when they have a big fit and both your hand and your partners hand are very undefined does not make a lot of sense.

[whereagles]

Indeed. Dbl is totally clear.

[VM1973]

I think you should have the agreement with partner that over 1♥-2NT (unusual, minors) that 3♣ and 3♦ are cuebids and you can work out exactly what they mean. I think I used to play 3♣ showed a limit raise or better in support of hearts. I think double should be for takeout. I think a double of 2NT should be penalty-oriented showing strength in one or both minors.

Edit: I think we played 3♦ as a mixed raise.

[Bbradley62]

I think you should have the agreement with partner that over 1♥-2NT (unusual, minors) that 3♣ and 3♦ are cuebids and you can work out exactly what they mean. I think I used to play 3♣ showed a limit raise or better in support of hearts. I think double should be for takeout. I think a double of 2NT should be penalty-oriented showing strength in one or both minors.

Edit: I think we played 3♦ as a mixed raise.

This thread is about what South should do at his second turn, not what North should have done.

[VM1973]

This thread is about what South should do at his second turn, not what North should have done.

You're right. I'm sorry... I thought when the original poster said:

 

"Appreciate your thoughts for both a pickup partnership and any relevant special treatments you may have with established partners."

 

that he was inviting me to share any relevant special treatments I may have had with established partners.

My bad.