bd71 Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 [hv=pc=n&s=skqh32dakt432ck32&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1sp2dp2sp]133|200[/hv] Playing that responders rebid of his/her suit does NOT cancel the game force... Is there any argument here to bidding 3♦, checking if partner has a ♦ fit as a way to explore slam likelihood? If you rebid 3♠ right away, seems like you lose that option, but bidding 3♦ still leaves you the option of playing in ♠. Obviously, this stems from a partnership disagreement...partner thought the priority in all situations must be to show the 6-2 spade fit. Appreciate your thoughts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 yeah partner probably doesnt like to show extra values either. 3♣ to be followed by 4♠ for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 2♠ doesn't show a 6th spade for 90+% of 2/1 systems. They often require opener's 2NT to be perfectly honest, i.e. 5332 and stops in both rounded suits, so 2♠ is absolutely normal with some 5332 without a stop. Another kind of hand that would rebid 2♠ is 5♠4♣ without extra values (yes some people bid 3♣ on anything but most don't). Another treatment I like is to have 2♦ then 3♦ show a very good suit, like you really really want to play diamonds, so that would be out. 3♣ is out because I don't have 4 clubs. There's little need of inventing suits in 2/1. Here I like 2NT because it keeps bidding low and we can still look for a fit. Of course, this means that we're rebidding 2NT without a ♥ stop but I think this is probably best. 2NT by responder is just sort of asking for more info from opener, 3♣ with 54, 3♦ with 3 cards, 3♠ with 6+ spades. It should work. Of course if he rebids 3NT there's a chance we get a heart lead and go down. So 3♠ might be the best of all, suggesting usually 3 but probably fine with this hand too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyman Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 Agree with gwnn. Since the vast majority of 2♠ bids don't show a 6th spade, raising here should show a 3rd spade. I think I should have a heart card for 2N, so I'll just rebid 3D. I don't see a need to invent a lie with this hand, but if you're going to tell one (I suppose so that you're sure to get your spade bid in there, avoiding, say, 1S-2D; 2S-3D; 3N), 2N with no heart or 3S with KQ both seem equally reasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggwhiz Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 I agree that 2♠ does not gaurantee 6 of them and that the way to find ♦ support is to bid 2nt or 3♣ as you prefer and reserve the hoped for 3♦ bid for your partner. I don't mind 2nt but my preference is for 3 clubs. If that gets raised I think we belong in 4 spades. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 3S feels fine. If opener now bids 4S, we will be in a 6-2 fit. This is not a "serious 3NT" situation, and pard can bid 3NT with only five. Because she didn't bid 2NT the previous round, I will probably opt for the 5-2 spade game. Can't bid 4D enroute after 3NT, because that would sound too slammish (but it is close). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 I agree with 3♠, only because it puts the partnership on solid footing for the remainder of the auction, assuming we have good agreements. I expect a serious cue, a friv 3N or 4♠ to indicate blecch. I think my plan is: - Over 4♠, pass- Over 3N, 4♣ (this one's close - I'll signoff in 4♠ over 4♦/4♥)- Over 4♣, 4♦ (Lackwood anyone?)- Over 4♦ (showing the Q), 4♥, LTTC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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