mgoetze Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 [hv=lin=pn|mgoetze,~~M32809,~~M32807,~~M32808|st%7C%7Cmd%7C2SH456QAD2357QC28A%2CS578TH79DTKC6TJQK%2CS6JQKH28JD468AC47%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%2012%7Csv%7Cn%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1H%7Can%7CMajor%20suit%20opening%20--%205%2B%20H%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%201%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1N%7Can%7CForcing%20one%20notrump%20--%206-11%20HCP%3B%2012-%20total%20points%20%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C2D%7Can%7CNew%20suit%20--%203%2B%20D%3B%205%2B%20H%3B%2011%2B%20HCP%3B%2012-18%20t%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3H%7Can%7C3%20H%3B%2011-%20HCP%3B%2010-12%20total%20points%20%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4H%7Can%7C3%2B%20D%3B%205%2B%20H%3B%2015-18%20total%20points%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CSQ%7C]480|320[/hv] I don't quite see why this isn't a 1♠ response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 I think it plays that 1S followed by 3H shows 5S3H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 Why is the explanation of North's 3♥ bid different after South's 2♣ rebid than it is after South's 2♦ rebid?[hv=lin=pn|emalka,~~M6337,~~M6335,~~M6336|st%7C%7Cmd%7C4S34H2JQKAD79C57JA%2CS68QH348D68QKC489%2CS7JKH59TD24AC236K%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%206%7Csv%7Ce%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1H%7Can%7CMajor%20suit%20opening%20--%205%2B%20H%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1N%7Can%7CForcing%20one%20notrump%20--%203-%20H%3B%203-%20S%3B%206%2B%20HCP%3B%2012-%20total%20points%20%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C2C%7Can%7CNew%20suit%20--%203%2B%20C%3B%205%2B%20H%3B%2011%2B%20HCP%3B%2012-18%20total%20points%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3H%7Can%7C3%20H%3B%203-%20S%3B%2010-12%20total%20points%20%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4H%7Can%7C3%2B%20C%3B%205%2B%20H%3B%2015-18%20total%20points%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CS8%7C]360|270[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 Why is the explanation of North's 3♥ bid different after South's 2♣ rebid than it is after South's 2♦ rebid?Please don't let the answer be "because one North is a passed hand and the other isn't". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 I think it plays that 1S followed by 3H shows 5S3H.Then what was this North thinking when he bid 1N?[hv=lin=pn|emalka,~~M3107,~~M3105,~~M3106|st%7C%7Cmd%7C4S3H23TJKAD6QAC7TQ%2CS69JKH47D238TKC6A%2CS58TQAH56QD59C39K%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%206%7Csv%7Ce%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1H%7Can%7CMajor%20suit%20opening%20--%205%2B%20H%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1N%7Can%7CForcing%20one%20notrump%20--%203-%20H%3B%203-%20S%3B%206%2B%20HCP%3B%2012-%20total%20points%20%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3H%7Can%7C6%2B%20H%3B%2017-20%20total%20points%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4H%7Can%7C2-3%20H%3B%203-%20S%3B%208-12%20total%20points%20%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CC2%7C]360|270[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BunnyGo Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 Wow, Bradley, you're really good at finding these examples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 Robots don't have the ability to "think", so it wasn't thinking anything :). I'm really not sure why anyway. I guess it simulated that hearts would always play better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Could 1♠ followed by 3♥ be a game force? So the only way to show a 3-card invitational hand is to go through forcing NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgoetze Posted August 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Could 1♠ followed by 3♥ be a game force? So the only way to show a 3-card invitational hand is to go through forcing NT. In my example, GIB had passed, so GF would be out of the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 I was trying to rationalize the hand Bradley found, where GIB wasn't a passed hand and bypassed its 5-card spade suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Please don't let the answer be "because one North is a passed hand and the other isn't".sorry but I was about to say just that. As a passed hand it can't respond 1♠ with heart support as it could be left in 1♠. But 1NT is forcing. Weird system, but it seems like GIB's decision are reasonable in light of the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 retracted... still formulating... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpenz Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Then what was this North thinking when he bid 1N?[hv=lin=pn|emalka,~~M3107,~~M3105,~~M3106|st%7C%7Cmd%7C4S3H23TJKAD6QAC7TQ%2CS69JKH47D238TKC6A%2CS58TQAH56QD59C39K%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%206%7Csv%7Ce%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1H%7Can%7CMajor%20suit%20opening%20--%205%2B%20H%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1N%7Can%7CForcing%20one%20notrump%20--%203-%20H%3B%203-%20S%3B%206%2B%20HCP%3B%2012-%20total%20points%20%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3H%7Can%7C6%2B%20H%3B%2017-20%20total%20points%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4H%7Can%7C2-3%20H%3B%203-%20S%3B%208-12%20total%20points%20%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CC2%7C]360|270[/hv]Curious....do you Stephen Picketts Bridgebrowser software with the BBO data base to find these examples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Curious....do you Stephen Picketts Bridgebrowser software with the BBO data base to find these examples.What you talkin' about, Willis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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