BunnyGo Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 I was playing with an absolute beginner (I taught my younger cousin to play yesterday and we went to a club today). We had the following auction all white: (3S)-P-(4S)-?? I held: 6, K85, A74, AQ9763 Should I have bid or passed? What if 3 spades had been passed around to me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantumcat Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 I was playing with an absolute beginner (I taught my younger cousin to play yesterday and we went to a club today). We had the following auction all white: (3S)-P-(4S)-?? I held: 6, K85, A74, AQ9763 Should I have bid or passed? What if 3 spades had been passed around to me? Playing with someone who knows what they are doing, you might double (hoping your side can make a five-level contract, or that they can make 4♠, or that partner wants to pass out a double). Then they might bid 4NT to say "I don't want to pass this out, but then again I don't have a good idea of where we should play" after which you can bid 5♣. However with your cousin, he would probably bid 5♦ or 5♥ with a four-card suit, or he might not recognise when he wants to pass out the double, or he might pass the double out from sheer panic, so passing it out would be better. If 3♠ got passed round to you, double is fine. If you end up playing in 4♥ with a 4-3 fit, at least the shortage is in the short trump hand so you (he) won't get forced off, plus you might not necessarily have a better club fit if you have a 4-3 heart fit, and if you do, the price of finding it is having to play a level higher. Also the lack of 4♠ raise makes the chance partner really wants to pass out a double a little bit more likely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgoetze Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 I pass. RHO could easily be bidding this to make here. Partner still has another shot. If it went (3♠)-p(p) I would consider this an easy 4♣ bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyman Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 Playing with someone who knows what they are doing, you might double (hoping your side can make a five-level contract, or that they can make 4♠, or that partner wants to pass out a double). Then they might bid 4NT to say "I don't want to pass this out, but then again I don't have a good idea of where we should play" after which you can bid 5♣. However with your cousin, he would probably bid 5♦ or 5♥ with a four-card suit, or he might not recognise when he wants to pass out the double, or he might pass the double out from sheer panic, so passing it out would be better. I agree with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 A raw beginner will very likely leave in any double, whether of 3♠ or 4♠. Under the circumstances, I think your choices are pass or 5♣. Anyway it is a good lesson hand for the beginner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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