hrothgar Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Personally, I don't think that Perry should be viable on the national stage. His jobs message can't be generalized outside Texas (we're not all going start putting oil wells in out back yard)His a religious nut case and was playing around with secession...He is genuinely stupid The following necessitates an additional post http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcPjmiGwMTc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PassedOut Posted November 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 That was painful to watch. I actually felt sorry for the guy. <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenberg Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Spinmeister's response: See, the government has become so large I can't remember the names of the agencies I will eliminate. It would be good for the country if the Republicans could find a credible challenger. Or at least someone who is not an embarrassment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Should he become President... "Well I have these 3 keys, a house key, a car key and um, what is this third key again? Oh, I don't know, let's just try it..." ...pause..."Oops!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 perry is done, i hope... the only man running who understands the job and has the intellectual wherewithal to compete is newt... i doubt he wins the nomination, though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenberg Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 As a college prof, I have gotten to know a lot of smart people that I would not want to see running the country. Newt seems like one of them. Maybe I am wrong, I am open to hearing about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PassedOut Posted November 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 there's very little doubt that newt is the smartest guy running and, probably, the only one that would beat obama in a debateAnd Newt has zoomed by Herman Cain in the latest polls... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 And the hits just keep on coming... Even after Bill O’Reilly played President Obama’s entire comments, which show the president was referencing the government and business sector not Americans, Perry still clung to his belief. “He said we’ve been a little lazy,” Perry said. “I think he’s talking about Americans.” “Do you really?” O’Reilly asked. “Is that what you took away from that?” “Absolutely,” Perry said. “I think that’s exactly what he’s talking about. I think this is a man who really, if he believed that Americans were hardworking, that they were ready to ignite this economy, then we wouldn’t have the tax policy, wouldn’t have the regulatory policies in place that are killing jobs in this country.” Perry did not hide his contempt for the president and his policies and directly labeled Obama a “socialist.” “Absolutely,” Perry said. “I think Barack Obama is a socialist.” How completely out of touch with reality is the Republican Party - seriously? When whackos like Bill O"Reilly start pointing out batshite crazy claims of candidates is it time to call in the men in the white coats? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PassedOut Posted November 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 How completely out of touch with reality is the Republican Party - seriously? When whackos like Bill O"Reilly start pointing out batshite crazy claims of candidates is it time to call in the men in the white coats?I suppose Perry figures he can't afford another "oops." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 As a college prof, I have gotten to know a lot of smart people that I would not want to see running the country. Newt seems like one of them. Maybe I am wrong, I am open to hearing about it.I think you are wrong, he is not one of them. Newt is one of the not that smart people that I would not want to see running the country. Seriously, I understand that Newt got the reputation of being an intellectual politicians, and an ideas guy, twenty years ago. I have started following US politics more closely maybe 5-8 years ago. I haven't seen him say something that requires being smart or intellectual yet. (The smart politician in the Republican field is Huntsman, from what I know.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 I'm sure you guys will be happy to know that I did not buy Perry stock :) Mainly because I dislike him strongly (ok, mainly because the market was very shallow). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 In other news, the time may have come to buy Romney. I have thought the whole time that if ANY viable candidate emerged, they would beat Romney, cuz ZOMG HES A MORMON! That said, if the most viable alternative is Newt... I can't really see Romney losing at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 I think you are wrong, he is not one of them. Newt is one of the not that smart people that I would not want to see running the country. Seriously, I understand that Newt got the reputation of being an intellectual politicians, and an ideas guy, twenty years ago. I have started following US politics more closely maybe 5-8 years ago. I haven't seen him say something that requires being smart or intellectual yet. (The smart politician in the Republican field is Huntsman, from what I know.) It's not that Newt takes positions that you might find particularly intelligent (or even intelligible, since he has switched positions on things from Libya to the Ryan budget to the individual mandate, sometimes over very short periods). It's that unlike the rest of the Republican field, he actually knows something about policy. He's not likely to stumble over where Libya is (as Herman Cain did recently) or whether the HPV vaccine causes autism (as Michelle Bachmann did) or what the names are of the federal agencies he wants to eliminate (as Rick Perry did). He'll be able to hold his own in a debate against Barack Obama (even if some of his statements won't hold water when the fact-checkers get to them, or won't seem consistent with things he has said previously in public life). On the other hand, his lack of ethics seems like a major negative. After all, he was drummed out of the speakership for ethics violations. He basically makes his money by scamming people into paying him for "Newt facetime." And his personal life doesn't just involve two divorces; they are two really ugly divorces of wives having serious health issues (and who he was already cheating on). Then again, it's not totally clear the Republican base cares about things like this (which is odd given their focus on "family values" and mistrust of politicians in general). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenberg Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 Has it come to this? "Knows where Libya is" puts a candidate at the front of the pack? Kathleen Parker had a sort of graveyard humor column about this today: http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-palinization-of-the-gop/2011/11/18/gIQAd6gwZN_story.html This is all very depressing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 The smart politician in the Republican field is Huntsman, from what I know. FWIW, I think that Romney has a decent head on his shoulders as well.Unfortunately, the guy has absolutely no political center, and from what I call tell, no shame. The flip flops that he has performed are incredible. And, sadly for Romney, he doesn't have the political skills to hide what he's doing. I am still trying to figure out what I think will happen with the Republicans.If I had to place and kind of bet, I'd say "Brokered Convention" at which point in time anything is possible. I wouldn't be surprised to see someone like Huckabee or Christie getting drafted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbodell Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 FWIW I think Romney is still the most likely next president. I'd put it at Romney 48%, Obama 40%, anyone else 12%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 intrade has it at about 51% Obama, 37% Romney, 12% anyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 perry is done, i hope... the only man running who understands the job and has the intellectual wherewithal to compete is newt... "The Congressional Budget Office is a reactionary socialist institution which does not believe in economic growth, does not believe in innovation and does not believe in data that it has not internally generated."Newt Gingrich I think if you parse that phrase carefully, he got one out of three right...I do agree it is an institution. If you're playing baseball, that's a decent batting average.Douglas Holtz-Eakins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 perry is done, i hope... the only man running who understands the job and has the intellectual wherewithal to compete is newt. I’ve tried for years to have a very simple model. Most of these schools ought to get rid of the unionized janitors, have one master janitor and pay local students to take care of the school. The kids would actually do work, they would have cash, they would have pride in the schools, they’d begin the process of rising.Newt Gingrich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 "We're the country that built the Intercontinental Railroad." - barack obama "The Middle East is obviously an issue that has plagued the region for centuries." - barack obama "I believe that the Constitution confers an individual right to bear arms. But just because you have an individual right does not mean that the state or local government can't constrain the exercise of that right." - barack obama... just for the hell of it, put in some right other than "to bear arms" and reread it and during one of his less politically correct moments, concerning his bowling "No, no. I have been practicing...I bowled a 129. It's like -- it was like Special Olympics, or something." i'll gladly match you quote for quote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 "We're the country that built the Intercontinental Railroad." - barack obama "The Middle East is obviously an issue that has plagued the region for centuries." - barack obama "I believe that the Constitution confers an individual right to bear arms. But just because you have an individual right does not mean that the state or local government can't constrain the exercise of that right." - barack obama... just for the hell of it, put in some right other than "to bear arms" and reread it and during one of his less politically correct moments, concerning his bowling "No, no. I have been practicing...I bowled a 129. It's like -- it was like Special Olympics, or something." i'll gladly match you quote for quote I am happy to admit that President Obama has made the occasional gaffe.(I'm shocked that you did't include his famous "57 states" quote. Isn't this the favorite trope of the right wing noise machine?) Here's the thing... There is a major difference between fumbling some words and completely misguided policies. Let's look at the examples you provided: 1. Obama used the world Intercontinental Railroad rather than transcontinental2. Not sure what he was trying to say. I'd certainly agree that the Middle East has been *****ed up for centuries.3. Hell of a lot of constitutional scholars would agree with Obama's position. (Historically, the right to bear arms hasn't been viewed as an individual right. However, lets pretend that it is... My understand is that the Surpreme Court accepts that State and Local governments can legally restrict individuals from purchaisng fully automatic weapons, hand grenades, large magazines, etc.) 4. Yeap, he acted like an asshole. (I'm surprised that this don't draw you more towards the president) I am more than happy to contrast these with Newt's comment where the entire premise is idiotic.There is a basic categorical difference here. Please understand, I'm not surprised that this kind of stuff confuses you, nor that you'd confuse Newt's bombastic bluster with intelligence...Newt goes out of his way to target low information, southern fried pieces of ***** like you. In some ways, its good to see that he's doing well capturing his target audience. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 delete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 There is a major difference between fumbling some words and completely misguided policies.it's fun watching idiots like you (although there aren't many of them) try to defend obama... i'm surprised you were confused about the middle east quote, it was the kind of dumbass thing one would expect you to grasp immediately obama has plenty of policy gaffes, apart from the "errors" he makes (when the teleprompter is on the blink)... NAFTA? Poland missile shield? stimulus waste (any count on the shovel ready jobs?)? proclaim solidarity with the feces-throwing, raping, OWS movement (although that might change now that they're saying prayers for the white house shooter)? Hell of a lot of constitutional scholars would agree with Obama's position. (Historically, the right to bear arms hasn't been viewed as an individual right. However, lets pretend that it is... My understand is that the Surpreme [sic] Court accepts that State and Local governments can legally restrict individuals from purchaisng [sic] fully automatic weapons, hand grenades, large magazines, etc.)hell of a lot wouldn't, also... as i suggested, throw in the right to peacefully assemble, or practice your religion, or any number of other rights and reread that ridiculous quote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonottawa Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 Barry's been a disappointment. I won't vote for him again (but I was for Hillary anyway, didn't expect him to deliver. Still, things would be worse under President McCain and Vice-President Palin.) Only Repugs I'd vote for are Paul and Huntsman. Romney's dishonest Obama ad precludes him from being president. The important election was in 2000; a few of us knew it at the time. Now we're just fighting over who gets to be captain of the Titanic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonottawa Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 Watching the repug national security debate. If you think perry's bad, apparently mitt doesn't even know his first name (it's willard btw.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.