rhm Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 I held a similar hand 7=2=2=2 and opened 2♠. The auction went 2♠ - X - 3♠ - 4♥4♠ - X - all pass 4♠X making. LHO asked,"thought the preemptor wasn't allowed to bid again?"Yes, because when the bid works once against a random idiot, it will always work in the future against other people. Bridge is such an easy game!I bid 2♠ because getting too high on a misfit is real. A 2♠ opening let's you stop right in 2♠. Once partner shows support the hand revalues.I would never let the opponents play 4♥, knowing about a 7-3 fit in ♠ opposite a hand which wants to increase the preemptive value. 4♠ is a good two way shot now and sometimes both games will make.It is good to know the rules of this game - and when not to follow them. This is no game for robots. All these arguments against a weak two ♠ bid, like having two bullets or a seventh ♠ cut no ice with me.The least of my worries are that partner may over-compete. In fact what is wrong with having an additional trump when your suit is weak escapes me. Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 "Normally should not" ≠ "not allowed to". Of course, some people think everything they've heard as a "rule" is engraved on stone tablets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 I bid 2♠ because getting too high on a misfit is real. A 2♠ opening let's you stop right in 2♠. Once partner shows support the hand revalues.I would never let the opponents play 4♥, knowing about a 7-3 fit in ♠ opposite a hand which wants to increase the preemptive value. 4♠ is a good two way shot now and sometimes both games will make.It is good to know the rules of this game - and when not to follow them. This is no game for robots. All these arguments against a weak two ♠ bid, like having two bullets or a seventh ♠ cut no ice with me.The least of my worries are that partner may over-compete. In fact what is wrong with having an additional trump when your suit is weak escapes me. Rainer Herrmann I would never < (my emphasis) let the opponents play 4♥, knowing about a 7-3 fit in ♠ opposite a hand which wants to increase the preemptive value. 4♠ is a good two way shot now and sometimes both games will make. xxxQJTAxxxxxx It is good to know the rules of this game - and when not to follow them. This is no game for robots. (my emphasis)Seems like an oxymoron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmcw Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 I bid 2♠ because getting too high on a misfit is real. A 2♠ opening let's you stop right in 2♠. Once partner shows support the hand revalues.I would never let the opponents play 4♥, knowing about a 7-3 fit in ♠ opposite a hand which wants to increase the preemptive value. 4♠ is a good two way shot now and sometimes both games will make.It is good to know the rules of this game - and when not to follow them. This is no game for robots. All these arguments against a weak two ♠ bid, like having two bullets or a seventh ♠ cut no ice with me.The least of my worries are that partner may over-compete. In fact what is wrong with having an additional trump when your suit is weak escapes me. Rainer Herrmann I like that. Seemingly, you have a rule for when to break the rules. Does partner know?, or is that another rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 I bid 2♠ because getting too high on a misfit is real.........Rainer Herrmann Which misfit ? If he has stiff u have 8 card fit if has doubleton u have 9 card fit ! This is not a 2 suiter light opener hand. Misfit usually hurts 2 suiter hands for various reasons. Of course there will be times we may regret 1♠ opening with this, but even then this will not be due to misfit most of the time. I will not critisize 2♠ or 3♠ openers. It is a choice/style thing. To me this hand opens 1♠ rebids 2♠ and then rebids 3♠ if forced to (unless supported) But on the other hand i open 2♠ with QJT9xx xxx xxx x in first seat and equal or fav vuln. So this one is way too heavy for me to open 2♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 I like that. Seemingly, you have a rule for when to break the rules. Does partner know?, or is that another rule.No I do not have rules, when to break the rules. This would really sound like an oxymoron.However, you should have good reasons when you break rules.Partner does not know and need not care. Judgment and logical thinking is more important than any rule. Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 I would never < (my emphasis) let the opponents play 4♥, knowing about a 7-3 fit in ♠ opposite a hand which wants to increase the preemptive value. 4♠ is a good two way shot now and sometimes both games will make. xxxQJTAxxxxxx ... My recommended actions do not work 100% of the time, do yours? Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxhong Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 This hand is too balanced for me to open 2S or 3S. So it is a 1S hand for me. [hv=pc=n&n=saj76532ha5dj9c42]133|100[/hv] 1st seat Red vs. white do you open this hand? 1S, 3S? etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 My recommended actions do not work 100% of the time, do yours? Rainer Herrmann No, they don't Rainer, however it does seem to me that what you propose is more likely to have problems than what I propose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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