ArtK78 Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 A "systemic psyche" is an oxymoron. A psyche is defined to be a gross deviation from agreements. If your system requires you to bid like that, it's not a deviation, let a lone "gross". When it's used in a context like that, players apparently intend "psyche" to mean "deviation from common agreements" (in R-S's case, the usual HCP requirements for an opening bid) rather than "deviation from our agreements".I agree. However, the use of the term "psychic bid" was different in the 1950s (and earlier) than it is today. Perhaps a better term would be "Systemic light opening" but, nevertheless, those bids were referred to as psyches. Hence the term "Psychic controls" was used for bids meant to systemically deal with the systemic psyches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 Although the law-book makes no mention of controlled psychs, some local legislatures implement regulations to discourage them. For example No agreement is permitted whose sole effect, or one of whose main effects, is to control psyches. It is also a matter of local regulation whether different understandings are allowed after an infraction The Regulating Authority may disallow prior agreement by a partnership to vary its understandings during the auction or play following a question asked, a response to a question, or any irregularity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 Although the law-book makes no mention of controlled psychs, some local legislatures have implemented regulations to prevent them. For example Again, it is a matter of local regulation whether you are allowed different understandings after an infractionI am confused by references to understandings and agreements; one player must pass throughout. What's to agree upon or understand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossoneri Posted August 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 Thanks for all the replies: I've created a new thread in the Laws forum regarding the actual case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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