mr1303 Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 [hv=pc=n&e=s9hakjdakq75ca963&d=s&v=b&b=7&a=pp2sdp3dp3sp4dp]133|200[/hv] First hand. No Lebensohl involved here so partner isn't promising anything. What do you fancy here? [hv=pc=n&e=sath73dk9843ca982&d=w&v=b&b=4&a=1d3h]133|200[/hv] Second hand. What say you this time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 1. I think the hand deserves another try. Yes we might even be down in 4 or 5 but I'm bidding 4♥, which hopefully is a cue-bid.2. I'd double the pre-empt. I'd bid diamonds over spades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 1-5♦, if we are lucky we make it. 2-5♦ for the sake of A-A-K, or i would bid 4♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 5D on the first hand, partner is allowed to have something. X on the 2nd one, if partner passes or bids 3N I will be happy, if he bids spades I will go back to diamonds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted August 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 Well, I bid exactly as Justin did (which I guess is a good sign) On the first hand, LHO now bid 5S which gets passed back to you. If it helps, LHO is Nick Sandqvist. On the second, I doubled and partner bid 3S. Presumably you now bid 4D? Or 5D? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 On the second, I doubled and partner bid 3S. Presumably you now bid 4D? Or 5D? I also considered this option, to be able to play 3NT. My concern was, i wasnt sure how pd will take this DBL and then bidding ♦. Especially if he bids 4♠ instead of 3♠. Is my 5♦ showing ♦ ? Or is it some sort of cue ? I cant answer these questions for everyone, all i know is, if i make this bid which i am not sure what it means myself without an agreement, would put pd into tank. That i am sure. Now in the forums we may sit and think and find a logical explenation why it should be natural or why not, but at the table i wouldnt take this risk. I am not the happiest man with my 5♦ bid either. But i know if 3♥ preempt is a legit one, this will not be a disaster score in MP or IMP pairs. But if we play a 4-2 fit at some level, or bid too high just to tell pd ♠ is not our suit, this would be hard to recover. I maybe wrong overall, but these concerns made me skip DBL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Doubling 3H does not promise 4 spades. It is too high of a level to play that, it will restrict your bidding too much when you don't have 4 spades. I would just bid 4D over 3S. I have 2 small hearts, my hand is not that great, and I have shown values. 11 is a lot of tricks to take. Though perhaps some would argue 4D is forcing I don't like to play it that way even though it is probably reasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farrnbach Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 1. 5D (I still speculate if 6D is the winner, but p needs a lot to make thist successfull, I'd like to play lebensol here2. X hopefully p can bid nt, if he bids 3S -> 4D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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