canaya14 Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 Hi there. I would like to post wich is (for me) a simple question, but yet cant agree with my regular partner.You play 2/1 GF.At matchpoints, 4th seat, White against Red you receive:♠x♥AQx♦AQxxxx♣xxx The bidding goes Pass - Pass - 2♠ (weak), to youWhat would you bid?Tx in advanceJuan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 doblo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 double Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 Pass. They have about half the deck, or so. If They have a spade fit, they will outbid our alleged fit to break even. Other results of doubling or bidding 3D are probably worse. I have suspicions about vul weak-two's in 3rd seat. Hal Kandler did it on solid 10-1-1-1 back in the early sixties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 3♦ for mi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 Pass for me. Partner is a passed hand after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikestar13 Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 3♦ for me, but pass is an attractive alternative. I just don't get double--a decent six carder and only 3-3 in the rounded suits suggest overcalling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurpoa Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 (edited) 3♦ for mi.Tell us why ? Edited August 7, 2011 by inquiry edited to remove string of hearts and words spelled using hearts as some letters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 I think it is criminal to pass this at MPs. The diamond suit isn't really good enough to insist on, and I'm not unhappy playing in 3 of a round suit. Double seems like a winner here, but it is not clear. BTW I like how Justin and Jeremy are "abusing" the forum, but Phil is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 Lurpoa, Posting an on topic reply of what we would bid is not "forum abuse." I am sorry if you would prefer a longer post explaining our deep thoughts on why we would bid it, you are not entitled to it, and not giving it does not constitute "forum abuse." Triple posting with annoying hearts asking everyone why seems closer to forum abuse. You could easily multi quote and ask why, or simply ask the posters to expound on their thoughts in a polite way rather than accusing them of forum abuse and then demanding (not asking) why, in the process triple posting and wasting space. Meanwhile, you have once again contributed nothing meaningful to the thread. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbodell Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 3♦ for me. It's match points and I likely have the best hand at the table - I can't sell out to 2M, else Larry would never team with me! Also, I'm the one short in spades so I need to act. Also w/r seems like bidding to the 3 level is super right. If my shape was 5♦ and 4♣ I'd be fine doubling with the 3 card ♥, but with 6 I want to emphasize ♦. But based on responses, looks like double might have more going for it then I'd originally though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 Who's jeremy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxhong Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 seems like an obvious 3D or double. Pass is way too chicken here when white. The problem of double is that you may miss your good 6-3 or 6-2 fit in D. The problem of 3D is that you may miss some good 5-3 fit in C or H or some quite unlikely penalty bonus in 2S x. So these two decisions are quite close. Hi there. I would like to post wich is (for me) a simple question, but yet cant agree with my regular partner.You play 2/1 GF.At matchpoints, 4th seat, White against Red you receive:♠x♥AQx♦AQxxxx♣xxx The bidding goes Pass - Pass - 2♠ (weak), to youWhat would you bid?Tx in advanceJuan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siegmund Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 I voted 3D but have no trouble admitting there are lots of times pass or double would have led to a better result. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 seems like an obvious 3D or double. Pass is way too chicken here when white. The problem of double is that you may miss your good 6-3 or 6-2 fit in D. The problem of 3D is that you may miss some good 5-3 fit in C or H or some quite unlikely penalty bonus in 2S x. So these two decisions are quite close. There is another problem with 3D. You could go for a telephone number opposite your passed partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 3D. I have a 6 card suit, and no 4 card heart suit beside, so I show my 6 card suit. If you play ELC, than the charme of X would be higher,I still would bid 3D. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 The bidding goes Pass - Pass - 2♠ (weak), to youWhat would you bid?Tx in advanceJuan Does that mean if we bid 3♦ then we can expect Tx in support? I joke! I joke, I joke, I joke..... My choice is 3♦, simple-minded perhaps, but I have always been one to bid what I'm looking at. There is another problem with 3D. You could go for a telephone number opposite your passed partner. LHO is a passed hand too. This is possible, but unlikely. One could invoke the First Commandment of Bridge: "Thou may steal, but thou should never be stolen from." Who's jeremy? http://www.youtube.c...h?v=l-AV2Lu_1wM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmcw Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Double = 103♦ = 5Pass = 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 3D, but I like double as well. Will never consider pass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 It's not as simple as you may think because both 3♦ and Dbl have merrit. I prefer 3♦ opposite a passed partner and Dbl opposite an unpassed partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guido Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 I would bid 3♦ but I have no problem with a double. The chance of going for a number is minimal. While it is true that the third seat weak two might contain a surprise, that works for you as well as against you ... opener's partner has to reckon with the possibility of non-standard distribution, non-standard strength, and/or non-standard hono(u)r dispersal also .. that makes it difficult for her/him/it to swing the ax when it is right. The strongest arguement against doing something here is giving opener a chance to rebid if holding an "Al Roth" two-suiter (e.g., KJTxxx-xx-void-AJTxx). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyman Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 3♦ but I'm a little uncomfortable seeing that the first two votes were gwnn and jlogic for X. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 Easy 3♦. This will, very likely, steal the pot. Opposite a 3rd seat pree LHO won't dare acting and RHO shut himself out. Pard is your main opp here, as he might raise to 3NT on a decent 10 :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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