manudude03 Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 [hv=pc=n&n=s9742ha3d4ckt8653&d=e&v=b&b=10&a=1d2c2h5c5h6c6h]133|200[/hv] IMPs scoring, r/r. Spot cards are approximate. Edit: bonus question, is Pass now forcing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 [hv=pc=n&n=s9742ha3d4ckt8653&d=e&v=b&b=10&a=1d2c2h5c5h6c6h]133|200|manudude03 writes "IMPs scoring, r/r. Spot cards are approximate." IMO Pass = 10, Double = 9, 7♣ = 5.It's not clear who's sacrificing against whom. But you've got a trick more than you promised.[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossoneri Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 FWIW, I usually get these wrong. Agree with 5♣, I vote for X as you've got more defence than you've shown 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vianu2 Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 [hv=pc=n&n=s9742ha3d4ckt8653&d=e&v=b&b=10&a=1d2c2h5c5h6c6h]133|200[/hv] IMPs scoring, r/r. Spot cards are approximate.People overcaling vulnerable 2cl (or even majors) with 7+ losers hand.What is the range of 2cl overcal? Is 2h forcing? Are there 50 points in package ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted August 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 2C is generally 10-16, 2H is forcing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeegan Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 :blink: I am not sure, but since I preempted and they had a strong auction ours is not the classic "voluntarily bid game" most people cite as the basis for making my pass forcing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semeai Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 I pass. I don't feel confidence in my judgement in such auctions, though. Edit: bonus question, is Pass now forcing? I have a strong opinion about this one, at least: no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilMarlow Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 At the colours, I think pass is forcing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 I would pass, unless I am playing with the Lone Ranger, who may feel that he has a right to bid 7♣. I don't think they are making...partner has at least one card outside of clubs, and our short diamonds suggest that declarer may be losing a trick there. One could argue that I dhould therefore double, but if I am wrong, and the other side defends undoubled, I have lost 6 imps, with no redouble, while if I am right, I have gained 3 imps. I don't like those odds. And if at the other table our teammates defend some number of clubs, or miss slam, then whether they go plus or not, the upside from double is probably very low indeed if we beat it one trick. In short, the opps have made the last guess....and good opps tend to bid slam here as a 2-way shot....maybe it will make and maybe, when it doesn't, the opps save. As to the bonus question, my first reaction is that surely the question is itself a joke. I don't see what part of this auction suggested that this was a forcing situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 i'll double it. partner might have been planning to bid on if we can't act. 1 defensive trick is almost 1 more than p is going to be expecting from a 5♣ bid. he surely won't place us with 2 tricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted August 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 In a moment of madness, I bid 7C :P. It was working out rather well until partner carved up the play (though its a good beginner problem), full hands and play below (approximate, can't find hand records): [hv=pc=n&s=sh62dajt632caqj72&w=sak863hqj8754d95c&n=s9742ha3d4ckt8653&e=sqjt5hkt9dkq87c94&d=e&v=b&b=10&a=1d2c2h5c5h6c6h7cppp&p=sas2s5c2cah5c3c9dad5d4d7d2d9c5d8s4stc7s3d3s6c6dqs7sjcjs8d6h4c8dks9sqcqskdjh7h3c4h9h2h8hackhth6hjcthkdt]399|300[/hv] Yes East bid 5H on a balanced minimum with 3 card support.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 I either pass or double, whichever is least encouraging (i.e. dbl in standard methods). Nah what are you smoking Wayne, pass forcing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted August 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 I assumed pass wasn't forcing, Nige's reply got me thinking.... I didn't add the other question until I had 3 or 4 replies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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