Phil Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 [hv=pc=n&s=skj962hqd74cj9543&n=sat83hakj654d3ca6&d=e&v=0&b=14&a=1d1sp3h4dpp4np5cp6sppp]266|200[/hv] Here's a hand from the 1Q of the Spingold Final. West leads the ♦K, 3, 2, 4. He thinks about it for awhile and continues a diamond which you ruff. Plan the play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 [hv=pc=n&s=skj962hqd74cj9543&n=sat83hakj654d3ca6&d=e&v=0&b=14&a=1d1sp3h4dpp4np5cp6sppp]266|200| Phil wrote "Here's a hand from the 1Q of the Spingold Final. West leads the ♦K, 3, 2, 4. He thinks about it for awhile and continues a diamond which you ruff. Plan the play." My guess (a line that caters for ♠ 4-0 and ♥ 5-1 :) but loses to singleton ♠Q :() : Ruff ♦, ♥Q, run ♠9, finesse ♠T, ♠A, ruff ♥, ♠K chucking ♣, ♣A. Claim. :) [/hv]Amusingly, If LHO were 4-6-1-2 with ♣KQ and RHO played two rounds of ♦ then... The second ♦ would squeeze LHO fratricidally, at trick two.Assuming that LHO discards a trump, the ♠K later squeezes LHO in the round suits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vianu2 Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 West just led the k ♦ followed by another and obviously can't be squeezed by himself at this tric. E bid the ♦ so it would be strange to miss KQ♣.Of course if E opens some 3♦ for example (don't know his hand) Zia will never be forced to decide how to make this slam.Play for 1(0)-1-8-3(4) ruf the ♦, ♥ to Q, finesse ♠ (jack to dummy) take all 3 spades, ruf a ♥ and take the last trump then ace ♣.Is that so bad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 I wonder whether West hesitated during the bidding or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 I wonder whether West hesitated during the bidding or something. I didn't watch this session, so I don't know what works in practice. But we're told that LHO tanked at trick two, ignored his partner's club signal and led a diamond instead, so there is a vague inference that he is trying to protect ♠Qxxx by putting declarer to an immediate trump guess. Of course, he may simply be protecting his partner's singleton ♠Q. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vianu2 Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 I didn't watch this session, so I don;t know what works in practice. But we're told that LHO tanked at trick two, ignored his partner's club signal and led a diamond instead, so there is a vague inference that he is trying to protect ♠Qxxx by putting declarer to an immediate trump guess. Of course, he may simply be protecting his partner's singleton ♠Q :(It cant be!!!Returning ♣ u allow declarer to play ♠ from dummy and u don't protect the Q♠ !! No matter u have xxx ♠ or qxxx u must return ♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vianu2 Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 Plan the play.who had the q♠ btw?? Please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 I dont know how this hand is layed out BUTI dont like it one bit. With 4 spades it is EASY to continue dia from the w seat not caring one whit if it gives up a ruff and sluff. Whywould it take W so long to find such a play?? Thats one another strike against 40 trumpswhy would E need W to make a club switch if they have the presumed club KQ and AQJ dia????That makes no sense they would simply overtakeand make the club switch themselves. It appears E has something akin toQx x AQJxxxxx Kx and wxx Txxxx Kx Qxxx W trying to represent long spades by making anapparently risky dia play. W is pretty sure12 tricks are making unless p has trump Q (counting 5 hearts 5 spades club A and dia ruff)and dia play best chance to lead declarer astray. a third strike against 40 trumps is with sayvoid x AQJxxxxx Kxxx would E not even consider a 5c bid (after the 4n bid)? vulnerability not shown so i am only speculating. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 I dont know how this hand is laid out BUT I dont like it one bit. With 4 spades it is EASY to continue dia from the w seat not caring one whit if it gives up a ruff and sluff. Why would it take W so long to find such a play?? If LHO holds 4♠ and 5♥, perhaps, he should take a little longer :) Then LHO's best defence may be to cash ♦K and switch to a ♣, hoping that RHO has ♣K and declarer is a trick short :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vianu2 Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 I dont know how this hand is layed out BUTI dont like it one bit. With 4 spades it is EASY to continue dia from the w seat not caring one whit if it gives up a ruff and sluff. Whywould it take W so long to find such a play?? Interesting analyze. So we should plan our declarer taking care of opps hesitations too?Now when i know W took long time to back another ♦..i want to review my declarer :P Got the lesson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 It appears E has something akin toQx x AQJxxxxx Kx and wxx Txxxx Kx QxxxDoesn't that West hand look like a negative double? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Doesn't that West hand look like a negative double?The hand is not exactly what Zia held.Zia had QTx in ♦ and only 4 cards in ♣. So overtaking in ♦ was not an option for East. Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 The hand is not exactly what Zia held.Zia had QTx in ♦ and only 4 cards in ♣. So overtaking in ♦ was not an option for East. Rainer Herrmann This is correct. I had inputed the hands from memory and South definitely held ♦QTx. Sorry for the error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 I thought this was a fun hand to watch. Zimmermann made a nice play of tapping dummy at T2 which removed an option for declarer to check for ♠Q stiff. In a vacuum, "xxx/Q">"Qxxx/void", but with diamonds a likely 7-2 (sorry about the original diagram), the chances 4-0 split exceed the specific 3-1. I played around with this on rpbridge.net's suit calculator and as long as East has more vacant spaces than West, its best to take a 1st round finesse. This hand reminds me a lot of Case 20 from: Las Vegas Casebook This deal was played in the 1st day of the LM's which was the 1st NABC event I played in after a long layoff. Our auction was 1♥ - (4♦) - 4♠ - AP. Bocchi played in 4♠ against me and made 6 after my partner shifted to a club at T2. After the hand, he commented on what would have happened if partner chose to tap dummy at T2 and that he would have had a guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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