microcap Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 As you long time fans know, Rex and I are seldom on the same book when we bid, much less on the same page. We missed a simple slam as follows:[hv=pc=n&s=s9hajdk73cajt5432&n=sakqt2hk5d984ckq9&d=e&v=0&b=14&a=p1c1d1sp2cp2d2h2np3cp5cppp]266|200[/hv] 1♣ could be as few as 2, 2♦ was game force, 2NT showed a non minimum hand with stoppers in the red suits. I couldn't believe Rex didnt bid 6 clubs with his monster. He felt my 5♣ was strongly uninterested in slam, that I should cue bid at the 3 level or bid 4♣ which would be stronger. I thought 5♣ painted a perfect picture of my hand. Comments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 My comment is that 2NT is a gross misdescription (3♣ would have been better, since a 7-carder is quite different from the x4x5/2xx6 2NT suggests) and 5♣ a total waste of bidding space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 I like 2Nt since i want to grab Nt to suggest a pos stopper in D. Over 3C however i like my hand a lot having 7C is quite rare here. There is 2 reason partner bid 3C 1 he think 6C is possible 2- He thinks 3Nt might not be the best game and want to keep 4S/5C in the picture (because hes short in D or H). 5C simply make no sense then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 well done, rex. oh dear, jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robkat Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 I prefer 3C to 2NT. You can always continue with 3NT over partner's 3S bid. 2NT is somewhat discouraging for club contracts. From N's perspective you could be off 2 A's. IMO, 3C is a slam try not anything else. Partner already asked and you said NT. Why should he ask again after you gave your opinion? If you agree, then clearly you should bid 6 with your hand. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 Agree with everybody that South is mostly to blame. South has already suggested no-trump as a contract, so his 5♣ should be a mild slam-try. Exactly what it shows depends on agreement but perhaps something like ♠ x ♥ Qx ♦ KQx ♣ AJxxxxx: good clubs but no convenient first round control. Nevertheless, when minor-suit slams are in the frame, bidding space is at a premium. IMO, over North's 3♣ exploration, South's leap to 5♣, with his actual slam-suitable hand, is profligate and stultifying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 2NT is debatable, 5♣ is insane. NEVER bid 5m when aprtner makes a slam try and its unlimitted. and I mean NEVER. Because more often than you think he has a big monster that all that needs to do is keycard before bidding grand. EDIT: I forgot to say, considering you hand with 7 card suit, a side ace, a protected ♦K and club intermediates given that you have already put yourself in a 11-14 context as a dead minimum is one of the worse judgement decisions I've seen from an experienced player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted July 29, 2011 Report Share Posted July 29, 2011 2NT is debatable, 5♣ is insane. NEVER bid 5m when aprtner makes a slam try and its unlimitted. and I mean NEVER. Because more often than you think he has a big monster that all that needs to do is keycard before bidding grand. Would it be OK if 5C specifically denied any keycards as well as showing a bad hand? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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