Zelandakh Posted July 29, 2011 Report Share Posted July 29, 2011 I haven't said I play these transfers Mike but they are indeed a perfectly sound method over 1NT and have been suggested by players much better than you or I. They have the disadvantage of not being able to stop in 2C, otherwise they are great. I mentioned them because I felt they would be of particular interest to Don and within the same thread looked like an obvious time to show them off. As for fantasy auction, my 2C auction is identical to yours except for throwing in a serious 3NT. Looking back at it again now, I think you might be right that this bidding is wrong, a 4H splinter from South instead of the 3S raise seems more descriptive. The auction in my own system is fine. There are really only 2 possibilities for North once South shows a positive response here, one is via RKCB and the other is to stay in relays and make a 5NT queen ask at the end. That is how the system works, why do you feel this is a fantasy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWO4BRIDGE Posted July 29, 2011 Report Share Posted July 29, 2011 here are the two hands [hv=pc=n&s=sq93h6da84ck76542&n=sakt752haq9dk3ca8]133|200[/hv] One point about the Meck Adjunct.After the 2NT! GF-jump, Meck has the Responder show the limit-raise w/3 cards M with the 3M rebid..... This is opposite from what I had learned about the 1M - 1NTF, 3C! jump-shift method where3M = weak bid with as few as 2 cards M and 4M = limit raise with 3 cards -- a hand that would have jumped to 4M if Opener had made a 2-level rebid in a lower ranking suit . This is possible because with Meck: 1M - 1NTF, 2NT! - 3C! = any hand w/o 3 cards M support... interesting ! Sooo, for the given hand:1S - 1NTF2NT! - 3S! = limit w/3 ...and we are at the same point as Zel's or Mike's auction. ( I like the "inference" of the Ht-singleton in Zel's "serious"/cuebidding auction . It's that "shortness" knowledge needed for the Grand to be bid ) . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxhong Posted July 29, 2011 Report Share Posted July 29, 2011 I have played this transfer structure since 2005. Well you could play transfers and the MA...For example:-1S - 1NT========2C = diamonds, or natural 2NT bid2D = hearts2H = 1-suited2S = 4+ clubs, min2N = art GF3C = 4+ clubs, INV3DH = 5+ clubs, shortage, GF3S = 5+ clubs, 6+ spades, GF Transferring and making a GF 3rd bid would show 5-5, going via 2NT only 5-4. Since you have gained so much extra space by using transfers I am sure you can further work out how to subcategorise 6-4, etc but I have not worked through enough detail on this yet myself. The disadvantage is not being able to stop in 2C if Responder is broke with (4)5 clubs. Nonetheless, I think there's plenty for you to work with here! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tolvyrj Posted July 30, 2011 Report Share Posted July 30, 2011 What i like to do is open with 1♠, but if we assume just basic 2/1 without any gadgets; then i choose 2♣ risk of loosing a game is too big. And if prd takes a very rosie wiew after that and thrust us to a no so highly presentage slam... well i have sixth ♠ card and control in every suit to back me up so i shld have some play in any case.And if the worst happens cause my opening choice i humbly apologized from my prd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 As far as I know im probably the first player to play transfer rebid by opener. My system is based on it. After 1H we play 1S is a relay wich give 1Nt=clubs2C=D2D=6H2H= 5H+4S 12-14 2S+ H+S GFThe transfers are 12-14 or 18-22 hands that are opened by a strong club 15-17 rangestrong balanced hands with 5M but not with 6M. Near or + GF hands (great 21+) Hands that are opened 1M 11-14 or 18-22 unbalanced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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