enidr Posted July 26, 2011 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 I tried to devise a relay structure for the 1♦ opener of a precision system I want to foister on partner but I'm terrible at it. I understand the fibonacci concept but I can't put it into practice. Anyway, as I failed, I thought I would try to borrow someone else's. Can anyone share something good? Our 1 diamond opener is 10-15 with exactly 4M and a longer minor or any 4441 shape. It would be nice if we could fit a NT range in there as well (I suspect it shouldn't be difficult as the 1D doesn't seem overloaded), but it's not crucial if it would spoil a nice method. Is it all off after interference? Assume no regulatory issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semeai Posted July 26, 2011 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 Here's a fairly simple symmetric relay system using 1♥ as hearts or GF relay over 1♦. Here's another using 1NT as the relay. They both assume not balanced, but could be tweaked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrecisionL Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 I tried to devise a relay structure for the 1♦ opener of a precision system I want to foster on partner but I'm terrible at it. I understand the Fibonacci concept but I can't put it into practice. Anyway, as I failed, I thought I would try to borrow someone else's. Can anyone share something good? Our 1 diamond opener is 10-15 with exactly 4M and a longer minor or any 4441 shape. It would be nice if we could fit a NT range in there as well (I suspect it shouldn't be difficult as the 1D doesn't seem overloaded), but it's not crucial if it would spoil a nice method. Is it all off after interference? Assume no regulatory issues. RESPONSES to 1♦: QUICK SUMMARY Edited 7/26/11: Responses are playing that 1♦ promises a 4-cd major! 1 Major: (a) 0-5 HCP Bid a 3M with 0-2♦, OPENER AVOIDS JUMP REBIDS: Safety Net!(b) 6-10 HCP 4-card M suit or better, bid ♥s first even if ♠s are longer 1NT 6-10 HCP Balanced, denies a 4-card major 2♣, 3♣. 4♣ 0+/~10/12+ HCP BOTH MINORS: Pass / Correct / Raise 2♦ 10+ HCP L.R.+ Does NOT deny a 4M or 5M (if G.F.) 2 M 10-11 HCP L.R. 4-4 or 5-card Major e-mail me for more details if interested ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semeai Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 Here's a way to fix the first link to include balanced hands in 1D by putting them in 1S, 1N, and 2H. It's not ideal in that 1D-1H-1S may be on 3 with a balanced hand without 4 hearts, which hurts your non GF auctions slightly. Added: Oops, this is more than you asked for. All hands opening 1♦ in your system have a 4-card major (or possibly are balanced)? What I have here is for 1D nebulous, excluding a 5 card major or a single-suited 6 card minor. 1D-1H: natural or GF relay1D-1H-1S: Not 4 hearts. (4 spades) or (3 spades and balanced).1D-1H-1N: 4 hearts, any.1D-1H-2C: 5+ clubs, 4 diamonds1D-1H-2D: 4 clubs, 5+ diamonds1D-1H-2H: 3 hearts and 1-2 spades. (Some overlap with 2m; use judgement.)1D-1H-2S: 5-5 or longer minors 1D-1H-1S followups. 2C = relay.1D-1H-1S-2C-2D: 3+ spades, balanced, not 4 hearts1D-1H-1S-2C-2H: spade-club 2-suiter1D-1H-1S-2C-2S: 3-suiter short in hearts1D-1H-1S-2C-2N+: zoom to spade-diamond 2-suiter 1D-1H-1S-2C-2D followups: 2H = relay.1D-1H-1S-2C-2D-2H-2S: 3 spades, 4+ diamonds1D-1H-1S-2C-2D-2H-2S-2N-3C: 3-2-4-41D-1H-1S-2C-2D-2H-2S-2N-3D: 3-2-5-31D-1H-1S-2C-2D-2H-2S-2N-3H: 3-3-4-31D-1H-1S-2C-2D-2H-2S-2N-3S: 3-3-5-21D-1H-1S-2C-2D-2H-2N: 3 spades, not 4+ diamonds1D-1H-1S-2C-2D-2H-2N-3C-3D: 3-2-3-51D-1H-1S-2C-2D-2H-2N-3C-3H: 3-3-3-41D-1H-1S-2C-2D-2H-3C: 4-4 spades and diamonds1D-1H-1S-2C-2D-2H-3D: 4-2-3-41D-1H-1S-2C-2D-2H-3H: 4-3-2-41D-1H-1S-2C-2D-2H-3S: 4-3-3-3 1D-1H-1N followups. 2C = relay.1D-1H-1N-2C-2D: balanced, 4 hearts or 3-suiter short in spades or diamonds1D-1H-1N-2C-2H: heart-club 2-suiter1D-1H-1N-2C-2S: 3-suiter short in clubs1D-1H-1N-2C-2N+: zoom to heart-diamond 2-suiter 1D-1H-1N-2C-2D followups. 2H = relay.1D-1H-1N-2C-2D-2H-2S: balanced, 4 hearts1D-1H-1N-2C-2D-2H-2S-2N-3C: 4-4 majors (then show 4-4-2-3, 4-4-3-2)1D-1H-1N-2C-2D-2H-2S-2N-3D: 4-4 hearts diamonds (then show 2-4-4-3, 3-4-4-2)1D-1H-1N-2C-2D-2H-2S-2N-3H: 2-4-3-41D-1H-1N-2C-2D-2H-2S-2N-3S: 3-4-2-41D-1H-1N-2C-2D-2H-2S-2N-3N: 3-4-3-31D-1H-1N-2C-2D-2H-2N: 3-suiter short in spades1D-1H-1N-2C-2D-2H-3C+: 3-suiter short in diamonds 1D-1H-2H followups. 2S = relay.1D-1H-2H-2S-2N: 1 spade (then show 1-3-4-5, 1-3-5-4)1D-1H-2H-2S-3C: 2-3-3-51D-1H-2H-2S-3D: 2-3-4-41D-1H-2H-2S-3H: 2-3-5-3 It might be good to move more hands to 2H, as there's room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semeai Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 Our 1 diamond opener is 10-15 with exactly 4M and a longer minor or any 4441 shape. It would be nice if we could fit a NT range in there as well (I suspect it shouldn't be difficult as the 1D doesn't seem overloaded), but it's not crucial if it would spoil a nice method. I suppose you do something like have the 2m openers be 6+m or 5m-4om? Here's a simple symmetric/symmetric-like relay system for this, using 1N as GF relay. I've allowed you to open 5m-4om-2-2 with 1D if you judge it best. 1D-1N-2C: (4 hearts, longer minor) or (balanced, no 4 card major, not 4333)1D-1N-2C-2D-2H: 4 hearts, 5+ diamonds1D-1N-2C-2D-2S: balanced, no 4 card major1D-1N-2C-2D-2N+: zoom to 4 hearts, 5+ clubs1D-1N-2D: balanced with a 4 card major or 3-suited red short or 4C-3-3-3 or 5C-4D-2-21D-1N-2D-2H-2S: 4 hearts1D-1N-2D-2H-2N: 4 spades, not 4 hearts1D-1N-2D-2H-3C+: 3-suited red short or 4C-3-3-3 or 5C-4D-2-21D-1N-2H: 4 spades, 5+ diamonds1D-1N-2S: 3-suited black short or 4D-3-3-3 or 5D-4C-2-21D-1N-2N+: zoom to 4 spades, 5+ clubs For the 4M-5+m hands, see the 2-suiter table here (includes 4M-5m-2-2). 1D-1N-2S or 1D-1N-2D-2H-3C+ followups:1D-1N-2S-2N-3C: 4m333 or 5m4om22 (do them in this order next)1D-1N-2S-2N-3D: minor suit short (do 4-4-(41) then 4-4-(50) next)1D-1N-2S-2N-3H: major suit short (41)-4-41D-1N-2S-2N-3S: major suit short (40)-4-51D-1N-2S-2N-3N: major suit short (40)-5-4 1D-1N-2D-2H-2S followups1D-1N-2D-2H-2S-2N-3C: 4H, 4S (then 44-23 44-32)1D-1N-2D-2H-2S-2N-3D: 4H, 4D (then 44-23 44-32)1D-1N-2D-2H-2S-2N-3H: 4H 4C 231D-1N-2D-2H-2S-2N-3S: 4H 4C 321D-1N-2D-2H-2S-2N-3N: 4H 333 1D-1N-2D-2H-2N followups1D-1N-2D-2H-2N-3C-3D: 4S 4D (then 44-23 44-32)1D-1N-2D-2H-2N-3C-3H: 4S 4C 231D-1N-2D-2H-2N-3C-3S: 4S 4C 321D-1N-2D-2H-2N-3C-3N: 4S 333 1D-1N-2C-2D-2S followups:1D-1N-2C-2D-2S-2N-3C: 5 clubs (then 2335, 3235, 3325)1D-1N-2C-2D-2S-2N-3D: 4-4 minors (do 2-3-4-4 then 3-2-4-4)1D-1N-2C-2D-2S-2N-3H: 2-3-5-31D-1N-2C-2D-2S-2N-3S: 3-2-5-31D-1N-2C-2D-2S-2N-3N: 3-3-5-2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enidr Posted July 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 thanks that's the sort of stuff i was after Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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