VM1973 Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 I believe it is common to bid Stayman holding 4-4-4-1 over a strong NT but does that hold for a 1NT overcall? [hv=lin=pn|VM1973,marteuge,catboo123,Mari T|st||md|4S289TH578JD2469CQ,S5QAH69TAD8QC2478,S4KH2QD7TAC369JKA,|rh||ah|Board 94|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|2H|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pg||pc|HA|pc|H2|pc|H3|pc|H5|pg||pc|D8|pc|DA|pc|D3|pc|D2|pg||pc|C3|pc|C5|pc|CQ|pc|C2|pg||pc|S2|pc|SA|pc|S4|pc|S3|pg||pc|DQ|pc|D7|pc|D5|pc|D4|pg||pc|H6|pc|HQ|pc|HK|pc|H7|pg||pc|DK|pc|D6|pc|S5|pc|DT|pg||pc|S6|pc|S8|pc|SQ|pc|SK|pg||pc|CA|pc|CT|pc|D9|pc|C4|pg||pc|CK|pc|H4|pc|S9|pc|C7|pg||pc|CJ|pc|DJ|pc|ST|pc|C8|pg||pc|C9|pc|S7|pc|H8|pc|H9|pg||pc|C6|pc|SJ|pc|HJ|pc|HT|pg||]400|300[/hv] Assuming North and West had bid like sane people, we probably would have ended up in 2 diamonds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmat Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 At the risk of repeating myself, it is a BAD idea to play with a random partner against random opponents and expect to encounter anything resembling sensible bridge. While garbage stayman is common, it is not standard and you probably shouldn't assume your random partner will understand that it is an option. Furthermore, a lot of people do not play that systems are on after a 1NT overcall, which appears to have been the case here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VM1973 Posted July 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 I believe the standard method, is that a cuebid of the opponent's suit is Stayman. I might be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmat Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 I believe the standard method, is that a cuebid of the opponent's suit is Stayman. I might be wrong. That generally applies at the three level, I think, in the context of lebensohl. 1n-[2h]-3h (stopperless stayman) 1n-[2h]-2n-[p]3c-[p]-3h (stopperful stayman) I've played systems on over overcalls for so long I don't actually remember what the standard system is at the 2 level. In your particular case it's somewhat ridiculous that partner didn't read the call as artificial when they heard a 1♣ opener on their right and they are looking at AKJxxx in their hand. It would not be unreasonable for them to play you for full stayman values and blast 3n, but 5♣ is ... err ... yes... some word that bbo doesn't let me use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Whether systems are on or not for you or for partner after a NT overcall, I think 2C would be used by most people on my planet as Stayman. So, bidding 2C seems o.k. Whether partner is in on the secret that you could be weak should not have mattered because the only rebids (uncontested) are 2D or 2M --and you intend to pass either. Now for the sanity issue: West had no more bids. He is sort of lucky East had some stuff. (will stick with "lucky" and not go the other place)North, having the same overcall he started with and no 4-card major, should have passed 2H awaiting what South's next action would be. You would have been defending 2H. True, on this hand +50 in two hearts or playing in 2D would not have been as good as declaring 1NT, But that doesn't make your attempt with the bad 4-4-4-1 wrong over the long run. And, maybe this West would have tried 2H anyway (given that we know he is insane). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VM1973 Posted July 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Am I right in believing that marking bad opponents enemies means I won't ever partner them again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 If you are playing in an individual tournament, your enemy designations are not relevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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