jschafer Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 What does the 3 bid show? Pass-(1♣)-2♦-(X)3♠? Your side favourable, IMPs. Disagreement with my p here, so would like to know what you think this bid shows =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dicklont Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 The 3S bidder has passed, so he can't have a weak hand with long spades. So I would take this as lead directing with a diamond fit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 Will pard open 3s with an outside ace? I play no so my guess is pard has long spades and an outside ace Kxxxxxx..x...xx...Axx or other type hands with a poor spade suit or an outside a or k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Its a lead director with at least enough diamond support for a raise to 4. Disagree with anyone that suggests this is fitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 this is fitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloa513 Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 The 3S bidder has passed, so he can't have a weak hand with long spades. So I would take this as lead directing with a diamond fit.He can have a weak hand with lots of spades if he never preempts with 4 or more of the other major but why bid at the 3 level over a hand that most likely has four of at least one major. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Fit showing for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Fit showing for sure.Fit showing unless you play some sort of 2 opening that would cover these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 psyche with xxx of spades + diamond fit :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Spade values and a diamond fit. With a single suiter, he could have bid 2S. A 2S instead of a 3S bid, which, although NF, also would have shown somevalues, and a long suit. I also belong in the camp, that say, if you did not open with a preempt, you cant show it later.We prefer our points in the suit, so if p would have a spade preempt,his suit has to be lousy, so why should he introduce a lousy suit onthe 3 level, with no gurantee of a fit.But this point is not relevant here, since a 2S bid was av. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenberg Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 I also belong in the camp, that say, if you did not open with a preempt, you cant show it later.We prefer our points in the suit, so if p would have a spade preempt,his suit has to be lousy, so why should he introduce a lousy suit onthe 3 level, with no guarantee of a fit.But this point is not relevant here, since a 2S bid was av. With kind regardsMarlowe This fits my thinking also and, I think, applies fairly generally. Coming in later with a two-suiter may be right, but for one-suited preempts my policy is do do it right away or not do it. For reasons that others may or may not agree with I tend not to start the bidding at the three level when I have a side suit void. But then later, having not done it at my first go, I shut up. So if I bid that way I would have some sort of spade values and a diamond fit. I wouldn't trot it out undiscussed though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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