The Kill Redouble

[mtvesuvius]

[hv=lin=pn|mtvesuvius,~~M53252,~~M53250,~~M53251|st||md|2S56AH5TQKDTQKC36K%2CS38QH268D45JC8JQA%2CS29TJKH7D369C2579%2C|rh||ah|Board%2012|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|an|notrump%20opener.%20Could%20have%205M.%20--%202-5%20C%3B%202-5%20D%3B%202-5%20H%3B%202-5%20S%3B%2015-17%20HCP%3B%2018-%20total%20points|mb|p|mb|2H%21|an|Jacoby%20transfer%20--%205%2B%20S%3B%2011-%20HCP%3B%2012-%20total%20points%20|mb|d|an|6-11%20HCP%3B%20rebiddable%20H%3B%207%2B%208421%20HCP%20in%20H%3B%2012-%20total%20points%20|mb|r|an|2-5%20C%3B%202-5%20D%3B%202-5%20H%3B%202-5%20S%3B%2017-%20HCP%3B%2018%20total%20points|mb|p|mb|2S|an|5%2B%20S%3B%206-%20total%20points%20|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3H|an|3%2B%20H%3B%203-8%20total%20points%20|mb|3S|an|6%2B%20S%3B%205-6%20total%20points%20|mb|p|mb|4S|an|2-5%20C%3B%202-5%20D%3B%202-5%20H%3B%202-5%20S%3B%2017-%20HCP%3B%2018%20total%20points|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|CT|pc|CK|pc|CA|pc|C2|pc|CQ|pc|C5|pc|C4|pc|C6|pc|CJ|pc|C7|pc|H3|pc|C3|pc|C8|pc|C9|pc|S7|pc|SA|pc|S6|pc|S8|pc|SJ|pc|S4|pc|H7|pc|HA|pc|H5|pc|H2|pc|DA|pc|DT|pc|D4|pc|D3|pc|H9|pc|HK|pc|H8|pc|D6|pc|S5|pc|S3|pc|S2|pc|D2|pc|HQ|pc|H6|pc|D9|pc|H4|pc|DK|pc|D5|pc|S9|pc|D7|pc|SK|pc|D8|pc|HT|pc|SQ|pc|ST|pc|HJ|pc|DQ|pc|DJ|]400|300[/hv]

 

My redouble appears to have very little definition here -- It should clearly be desire to play in 2♥ XX if partner has some tolerance, otherwise partner can bid 2♠ to show <INV or do something else. In this case, I don't really know why GIB was bidding 3♠. With my ubermax and undisclosed 3 card support I made a pushy 4♠ call, however the problem here lies in GIB's 3♠ call which was peculiar at best.

 

Another example of this came up an hour or so later:

[hv=lin=pn|mtvesuvius,~~M56270,~~M56268,~~M56269|st||md|1S6TAHQKD58QKC29QA%2CS237QKH7D4C3568TK%2CS589JH3569TD39TCJ%2C|rh||ah|Board%207|sv|b|mb|2N|an|Two%20NT%20opener.%20Could%20have%205M.%20--%202-5%20C%3B%202-5%20D%3B%202-5%20H%3B%202-5%20S%3B%2020-21%20HCP|mb|p|mb|3D%21|an|Jacoby%20transfer%20--%205%2B%20H%20|mb|d|an|6%2B%20HCP%3B%20rebiddable%20D%3B%207%2B%208421%20HCP%20in%20D%20|mb|r|an|2-5%20C%3B%202-5%20D%3B%202-5%20H%3B%202-5%20S%3B%2020-21%20HCP%3B%2024%2B%20total%20points|mb|p|mb|3S|an|5%2B%20H%3B%204%2B%20S%20|mb|p|mb|3N|an|2-5%20C%3B%202-5%20D%3B%202-5%20H%3B%202-5%20S%3B%2020-21%20HCP%3B%2024%2B%20total%20points%3B%20likely%20stop%20in%20D|mb|p|mb|4H|an|6%2B%20H%3B%204%2B%20S%3B%201%2B%20total%20points%20|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|S4|pc|ST|pc|SQ|pc|S5|pc|D4|pc|D3|pc|DA|pc|D5|pc|C4|pc|C2|pc|CK|pc|CJ|pc|S7|pc|SJ|pc|H2|pc|S6|pc|D6|pc|DK|pc|H7|pc|D9|pc|S2|pc|S8|pc|H8|pc|SA|pc|D7|pc|D8|pc|C3|pc|DT|pc|H9|pc|HA|pc|HQ|pc|C6|pc|H4|pc|HK|pc|C8|pc|HT|pc|CA|pc|C5|pc|S9|pc|C7|pc|DQ|pc|CT|pc|H5|pc|DJ|pc|H6|pc|HJ|pc|CQ|pc|SK|pc|D2|pc|C9|pc|S3|pc|H3|]400|300[/hv]

This hand is absolutely ridiculous. GIB's 3♠ call should be a GF, not some random 4-5 yarb. Once again the redouble seems to show extra "Total Points" but say nothing else -- I really don't see how this is a practical use. GIB's line of play here was slightly less-than-optimal as well.

[pigpenz]

sort of like playing in a local club game with Maude and Mabel...your redouble showed heart tolerance and Maude decided to reshow the same 5 card spade suit again....but with invitational values GIB could have bid something else besides 2♠so 4♠by you would seem a little bit too optimistic unless it was a state of the match type of bid.

 

another thing I have noticed is GIB likes to make reverse type of bids off of transfers.

I opened 1NT gib bid 2NT

transfer to 3C then bid 3s showing 6 clubs and 5 spades.