Brutal decision or easy one ?

[MrAce]

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Agreements:

 

-1NT overcall is natural (not sandwich)

-2♠ bid is natural

 

Scoring : IMP pairs

Partner : Expert

 

What would you choose to do and why ?

 

 

Thanks all for the replies ! :)

[hrothgar]

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Agreements:

 

-1NT overcall is natural (not sandwich)

-2♠ bid is natural

 

Scoring : IMP pairs

Partner : Expert

 

What would you choose to do and why ?

 

 

Thanks all for the replies ! :)

 

 

1NT is right on strength, stoppers, and protects my Kings.

I'd prefer a third heart or better yet a double stoppr, but life ain't perfect.

[mike gill]

1n seems less flawed than 2♠ with a balanced hand or pass when I could have a really nasty decision the next round.

[billw55]

pass, both ops are unlimited, partner could be totally broke, spades may be hard to use on offense. 1NT risks a big minus score while standing to gain only a small plus score. It also helps the ops a lot during the play.

[mtvesuvius]

I'm going to hate my choices later if I pass. I don't like 2♠ with a balanced hand, and although AT♥ is kind of wimpy, I think 1N is best here.

[paulg]

1NT.

 

If partner has a bust then they will double 1NT and he can probably escape to a fair spot. Overcalling two spades seems a lot riskier.

[Hanoi5]

Between 1NT and Pass I'd prefer 1NT. 2♠ should be 6th so I don't like that.

[whereagles]

pass and dbl later for a spade lead :)

[jmcw]

pass and dbl later for a spade lead :)

 

Are you suggesting this action versus 3NT or other strains?.

 

What if they stop in 1NT?, or 2♥, possibly even 2 minor?

[Phil]

I watched the hand so I have a built in bias. I thought 'brutal' at the time!

 

I'd like to think I'm wiser now and would bid 1N, but we'll see.

[wank]

wtp 1nt

[ceeb]

I'd bid 1NT without agony -- the prospect of developing tricks is reasonable and partner likely has some ♥s if we are left here, and passing isn't my style. I don't mean that as patronizing, just that if I passed I'd be at sea later. Also, if partner has a long minor we want to have bid.

 

Bidding 2♠ with only five isn't tempting at all.

[whereagles]

Are you suggesting this action versus 3NT or other strains?.

 

What if they stop in 1NT?, or 2♥, possibly even 2 minor?

 

If they stop in

- 1NT: dbl, yes.

- 2x: either pass or 2♠ (natural), depending on how confident opps look.

- 3NT: don't think they will bid so high, but dbl still.

[Tataie]

I would bid 1nt.

X is out of the question.2♠ kind of needs the 6th ♠.

Pass can be good depending if pd is broke or not but I smell the 1♠ bid might have ♥ and psyched the ♠.

If that is 2♠ is far superior but I cant do a generic bid on a hunch :ph34r:

[han]

To me this is a very clear 1NT bid. I don't like to bid 2S on a 5332 hand, and I definitely don't like pass.

 

Thanks for giving me the heart 10 btw, a great card for bidding 1NT.

[dake50]

Agree 1NT as this is presented.

 

** Hijack: how will we ever catch the 1S psych on say 4+H and 0-2xS?

[the hog]

Pass. 1NT is extremely dangerous and you could be going for a huge penalty. Opponents are unlimited at this stage.

[akwoo]

I think this depends on what your system allows your partner to do.

 

If you bid 1N, can and will partner put you in 3 of a minor with

 

♠ x

♥ xxx

♦ Qxxxx

♣ Qxxx

 

or minors reversed?

 

Even better would be if partner could put you in 2 of a minor.

[MrAce]

At the table, i decided to pass.

 

First of all i have to mention that with this first time expert pd, i did not know how he was playing 1 NT (but in OP i gave it to you guys as if u have one), he would probably take it natural had i bid it and he confirmed this after the hand. I normally almost always bid 1 NT, but this particular hand and the vulnerability and lack of agreement led me to pass.

 

-I could pass and miss a game or a nice partscore

 

-I could get dbled and bail out some numbers when they can only make partscore at most.

 

Of course pd had :D

 

xx

QJx

AQxxxx

xx

[aguahombre]

I think as a general rule with a new (expert) partner, undiscussed bids which sound natural should be assumed natural.

[rduran1216]

1NT is obvious.

 

Incidentally its hands like these that I like to bid 1NT naturally, then partner can pass or compete with an unbid 5 card side suit, sandwich NT can be dealt with by double versus 2 of the lower ranking suit.

[the hog]

At the table, i decided to pass.

 

First of all i have to mention that with this first time expert pd, i did not know how he was playing 1 NT (but in OP i gave it to you guys as if u have one), he would probably take it natural had i bid it and he confirmed this after the hand. I normally almost always bid 1 NT, but this particular hand and the vulnerability and lack of agreement led me to pass.

 

-I could pass and miss a game or a nice partscore

 

-I could get dbled and bail out some numbers when they can only make partscore at most.

 

Of course pd had :D

 

xx

QJx

AQxxxx

xx

 

So you still would get to 3NT. What is the problem?

[paulg]

I think as a general rule with a new (expert) partner, undiscussed bids which sound natural should be assumed natural.

You forgot to add BOCTAOE.

[Free]

First pair to bid 1NT gets to play it. 1NT.

 

The argument of opps being unlimited is pretty flawed imo. If you play 1NT natural in this situation, you accept that fact and deal with it when it comes up. What do you need for a natural 1NT then? 18-20HCP? :blink:

[aguahombre]

I think as a general rule with a new (expert) partner, undiscussed bids which sound natural should be assumed natural.

 

 

You forgot to add BOCTAOE.

Yes, general rules have exceptions. Hence called general rules.