jschafer Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 [hv=pc=n&s=skq7hjdt8532ca873&d=e&v=0&b=14&a=ppp1hp2dp2s(16+%20GF%20nat)p2np3hp]133|200[/hv] Just checking if I'm crazy or not ^^ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 Don't have enough information to answer your question. Now, about the hand. 2♦ is right on values and shape, but I don't really want to emphasize a suit of 10xxxx. If partner has a minimum (or sub-minimum) opening, he may pass 2♦ on a small doubleton or, in a pinch, a singleton. Do you really want to play a seven-card fit at the two level on a 10 high fit? 1NT is a better response to 1♥. If partner passes 1NT (assuming that you do not play it 100% forcing by a passed hand) you are probably in the right spot. Having said that, one is now faced with what to do over 3♥. I think that 4♥ is the percentage call. 3NT has two potential weak points - both minor suits. If partner's hearts do not run, you may not have 9 tricks without giving up the lead once or twice. Besides, it is very embarrassing to lose 4 or 5 tricks in a suit that you bid as a 2/1 response. I don't like the idea of raising spades. Partner's spades could be forced with diamond leads. So, I bid 4♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rduran1216 Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 3S is clear IMO. Partner will be able to figure this out and decide which game his holding is suitable for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 3S is clear IMO. Partner will be able to figure this out and decide which game his holding is suitable for. How does partner know that you have the singleton ♥J as opposed to a void in hearts? The ♥J is a significant card. Besides, as I already stated, the 4-3 is not likely to be right given that partner could be forced by diamond leads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 I have a great hand - everything is working overtime here. I would like a doubleton heart of course. 3♠ could be misconstrued as looking for a 4-3, or possibly letting partner retreat to 3N. 4♣ is unambiguous and agrees hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 I would have bid 1NT over 1H - although it's true that we are somewhat protected by our passed hand status I still wouldn't want to introduce a 10-high five card suit. Assume you play some sort of drury (or a way of showing 3-card raise on the first round) I will now bid 4C a cue setting hearts which typically may show a singleton honour or a doubleton (some doubletons may be able to bid 3H over 2S). We have very good cards for partner although I am somewhat afraid partner may over/under value their diamond holding (maybe partner will like their Qx or maybe dislike a singleton). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 agree with artk78 after 1h u have to worry about potential misfit andbe a bit conservative. Save the 2d bids for hands withat least halfway decent diamonds. The other BIG downsideof 2d is potentially losing a large club fit. It isvery unlikely you have a game if p cannot bid over 1n(since i dont know system doing best i can). If we assume the bidding proceeds in a simlar fashion 1h 1n2s 2n3h Your hand is golden for suit contract and p knows youhave a maximum xx hearts yet still bid 3h. The heart Jis easily as good a xx and your KQ spades and side aceare much more than p might expect go for game. 3S whilea decent bid on values leaves p with illusion you mightbe void certainly at most 1 small heart and odds aremighty thin p has 5 spades. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rduran1216 Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 How does partner know that you have the singleton ♥J as opposed to a void in hearts? The ♥J is a significant card. Besides, as I already stated, the 4-3 is not likely to be right given that partner could be forced by diamond leads. If I was void in hearts, I dont think id entertain the possibility of playing 3NT, and may just blast 4S. I wouldn't mind playing this hand in NT, spades, or hearts depending on partner's hand. I can see the argument that this hand will work great if partner has solid hearts, but can't partner have AJxx KQxxxx A Qx I have a great hand for hearts I acknowledge that, but I may not want to be past 4H, which is what 4C almost surely guarentees. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 I would bid 3S. Agree that 2D was not good, especially with a passed hand one should try to make descriptive calls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jschafer Posted July 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 Thanks for the responses! I also agree about the comments on the 2♦ bid, it was a bidding problem I was given after the 2 bid was already made. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 If I was void in hearts, I dont think id entertain the possibility of playing 3NT, and may just blast 4S. I wouldn't mind playing this hand in NT, spades, or hearts depending on partner's hand. I can see the argument that this hand will work great if partner has solid hearts, but can't partner have AJxx KQxxxx A Qx I have a great hand for hearts I acknowledge that, but I may not want to be past 4H, which is what 4C almost surely guarentees. Where do you want to play if partner has the hand you suggest? 6♠? If your answer is 4♠, I suggest that 4♥ is just as good and may be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 If I was void in hearts, I dont think id entertain the possibility of playing 3NT, and may just blast 4S. I wouldn't mind playing this hand in NT, spades, or hearts depending on partner's hand. I can see the argument that this hand will work great if partner has solid hearts, but can't partner have AJxx KQxxxx A Qx I have a great hand for hearts I acknowledge that, but I may not want to be past 4H, which is what 4C almost surely guarentees. Considering its very difficult to construct a passed hand without a primary fit that makes a slam opposite this, I think advancing past 4♥ would be very bad. Examples like this do underscore how good hearts play, and how lousy spades play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 Why is everybody nuts about slam here? I'll just bid 3♥ here and hope pard can make 4 of those B-) By the way, hearts should play safer than the moysian spade fit and that's why I prefer 3♥ to 3♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 I'd bid 4♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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