Taking Back a Bid

[kenberg]

Both comments above are interesting and are things I didn't know. But I don't want to be organizing a hijack, so probably I should try to backpedal a bit and just repeat that I am fine with correcting mechanical errors but I think that players should take some responsibility for keeping the undo requests, in bidding or in play, to a minimum. I have seen games where it just gets silly. We do our best, we all make mistakes, we move on and try to make fewer of them. The world does not end if you make a bad play or call, whatever the reason for it.

[Zelandakh]

That may be so in the card view A2003, but I simply cannot visualise my hand thus and instead use the diagram view. Luckily I rarely misclick on the cards (more commonly in the bidding) but occasionally a misclick does happen.

[billw55]

I was involved in a very similar situation at a sectional swiss last weekend. LHO opened 2♣, partner bid 2♠, RHO bid 2♠. Director informed me that I could:

 

1. accept the bid and continue with no further penalties; or

2. refuse the bid, in which case RHO must chose a different call, and opener must pass throughout. (this because RHO's call was conventional)

 

Of course I chose option 2. RHO took a stab at 3NT with no spade stopper. Opener tabled the stiff ♠A, there were nine cashers, and there was no swing. Next hand ..

[shintaro]

I was involved in a very similar situation at a sectional swiss last weekend. LHO opened 2♣, partner bid 2♠, RHO bid 2♠. Director informed me that I could:

 

1. accept the bid and continue with no further penalties; or

2. refuse the bid, in which case RHO must chose a different call, and opener must pass throughout. (this because RHO's call was conventional)

 

Of course I chose option 2. RHO took a stab at 3NT with no spade stopper. Opener tabled the stiff ♠A, there were nine cashers, and there was no swing. Next hand ..

 

 

:unsure:

 

lol thats just 'bridge' or rub of the green as we call it

 

:D

[barmar]

I was involved in a very similar situation at a sectional swiss last weekend. LHO opened 2♣, partner bid 2♠, RHO bid 2♠. Director informed me that I could:

 

1. accept the bid and continue with no further penalties; or

2. refuse the bid, in which case RHO must chose a different call, and opener must pass throughout. (this because RHO's call was conventional)

 

Before the last revision to the Laws, that was the rule for corrections of insufficient bids -- if either the original or replacement is conventional, partner is barred.

 

The 2007 Laws changed this as described above. So either there's more to this situation than you've described (perhaps there was no replacement call that fit the new criteria), or your Director has not kept up to date (it's been several years, he should have learned the new law by now).

[billw55]

Before the last revision to the Laws, that was the rule for corrections of insufficient bids -- if either the original or replacement is conventional, partner is barred.

 

The 2007 Laws changed this as described above. So either there's more to this situation than you've described (perhaps there was no replacement call that fit the new criteria), or your Director has not kept up to date (it's been several years, he should have learned the new law by now).

The director consulted with opener away from the table, so there may well have been some additional information on the circumstances that I was not made aware of.

[bbutcher85]

Basically I don't really see the point of allowing undos. Only in a friendly game where I know my opps and know they wouldn't abuse the function I'd allow one.

 

People use misclick as a reason to allow the undo, but like many others I get the feeling that this argument is abused. There are way too much undo requests while I never have a misclick myself. Some people blame their mousepad for their many misclicks. Well, they should just buy a mouse imo, it's not like it's a huge investment...

 

Some of us use a Kindle or similar small screen device, and it is very easy to click on the wrong card or bid since the finger is 2-3 times the width of the point on the screen. In ACBL tournament play and sanctioned club play the director will permit changing of a mistaken bid as long as the players partner has not bid. This is not to say you can change your mind, but you pulled the wrong card from the bidding box.

[barmar]

Some of us use a Kindle or similar small screen device, and it is very easy to click on the wrong card or bid since the finger is 2-3 times the width of the point on the screen.

When I use the mobile app I usually enable the "Confirm bids" option because of this. I don't do it for plays, though, because it would be too annoying to do it for every card.