mich-b Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 [hv=pc=n&w=s742hkt5da7ckj732&d=s&v=e&b=3&a=pp1sd2s]133|200[/hv] Teams (IMP). You Passed on your 1st turn, because your style is not to open light with minors, when vulnerable.What now? Feel free to comment about the 1st Pass , but if it really bothers you , just assume LHO was the dealer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossoneri Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 MPs or IMPs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 If it's your style to not open light, then there's no point in discussing your 1st pass imo. Some open these hands, some don't. Now I'd bid 3♣, this should show a decent hand (we're V vs NV and you're not bidding Lebensohl - if you play that in this situation). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 This looks very strong for 3♣, even if we're playing Lebensohl. On the other hand, there's no certainty of game - eg xx AQxx KQxx Qxx is a respectable takeout double. If I were to do something stronger, it's not clear what I should do. I could bid 3♠ to see if he bids 3NT, but if he doesn't he may bid 4♦, so I'd be committed to game opposite a 2443 minimum. Maybe there should be a distinction between double-then-3♠ and a direct 3♠, but I've never discussed that with anyone. At IMPs, I'd try a direct 4♣, giving up on 3NT but making it clear that there's only one suit in the picture. If he turns out to have a 2452 shape, I may still make. At matchpoints, I'd probably bid 3♣ and hope that opener actually has an opening bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 Easy lebensohlic 3♣, unless pard's dbl promises the world (in which case he's going to pass a lot LOL). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 I would bid 3♣ (showing values using Lebensohl). Partner may have a semi-balanced hand with spade values, so we cannot bypass the most likely game - 3NT. This risks missing a good 5♣ if partner cannot take another call with shortness in spades. As is often said in Master Solvers Club, "if I can just get past this round of bidding..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 your choices are negligible but your game chances are fairly low so even not playing lebensohl you are pretty much screwed into trying 3♣ which should show decent values considering the colors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 I play 2N as Scrambling or 2 Places to play in all these spots usually... Therefore I think I'd bid 3♣, and hope for the best. Tough problem though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 I would bid 3C on this hand. probably best of a bad lot. Double, denying 4H for me and showing values would be a second choice and acceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 double then 3♠ if partner bids 3♦ looks the best effort to me. 3♣ is a big underbid imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmcw Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 North's 3rd seat opening could be quite light, given partners X and my maximum I think game is a definite possibilty. I can show decent ♥ tolerance(Hxx) with a responsive X, If he rebids the expected 3♦ I will cue ♠ and go from there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 This looks very strong for 3♣, even if we're playing Lebensohl. On the other hand, there's no certainty of game - eg xx AQxx KQxx Qxx is a respectable takeout double. If I were to do something stronger, it's not clear what I should do. I could bid 3♠ to see if he bids 3NT, but if he doesn't he may bid 4♦, so I'd be committed to game opposite a 2443 minimum. Maybe there should be a distinction between double-then-3♠ and a direct 3♠, but I've never discussed that with anyone. At IMPs, I'd try a direct 4♣, giving up on 3NT but making it clear that there's only one suit in the picture. If he turns out to have a 2452 shape, I may still make. At matchpoints, I'd probably bid 3♣ and hope that opener actually has an opening bid. I play an immediate 3S as a good 4H bid (i.e. to set up a forcing pass over 4S) and double-then-3S as balanced looking for the best game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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