mgoetze Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 IMP pairs [hv=pc=n&e=s6hkqj3dq987654c2&d=s&v=e&b=3&a=1cpp]133|200[/hv] Your bid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Passing is out of the question, although it could be the winning call. Partner could be sitting there with a strong unbalanced hand with long clubs. You could be cold for game in any of three denominations. I recognize that LHO could be the one with the strong hand and you could be rescuing the opps from a bad contract. But I will take that chance. I bid 1♦. I do not double. Besides the fact that double is more than a bit silly with 74 in the red suits, I don't want to defend 1♣x in any event. At this vulnerability, passing is only right if (1) you go plus defending 1♣ more than the value of your red suit or NT partial; (2) you go minus 100 and the opps cannot make 9 or more tricks in clubs; (3) you go minus 200 or more; or (4) the opps find a better contract and you can't do anything about it. The first three of these possibilities are pretty remote. The last one might happen, but it seems unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 1♦ seems fine, and my options are limited by style. 2♦ /1♣ in balancing chair would show about two more Aces than I have, double is unprepared, and pass seems silly. Also, 3D doesn't feel right with 3/4 of my HCP in another suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Pass. The hand has close to no defense and opps seem to have a spade fit. If I had to bid, it would be 3♦ (regardless of what pard will make of it). A mere 2 won't be high enough to shut the spades. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Never mind. B-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 [hv=pc=n&e=s6hkqj3dq987654c2&d=s&v=e&b=3&a=1cpp]133|200|mgoetze asked IMP pairs. Your bid? IMO Pass = 10, Diamond bids = 8. If you protect and partner has - 3♠ or fewer, then you may have some explaining to do.- 4♠, then you may survive.If partner has a fair hand with 5♠ or more, then he would already have bid. [/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 3♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmcw Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 I would like to bid 2♦, but I need a better hand. That leaves 1 and 3♦, and pass. Pass is safest for sure, but I don't think you win by playing safe if a reasonable alternative is available. I'm going for 3♦ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 What is 3♦ supposed to mean? The reason I don't like entering the auction is mainly the possibility of hitting a misfit. Opponents seem to have spades and we won't be able to outbid them; however this might not be so bad since partner is likely to have 4 spades. Also 1♥ looks better than 1♦ if we're not gonna play the hand; but there's a 3-card difference between those suits and it may lead to misunderstandings. I might regret not bidding because we're vulnerable but spades are such a menace that I prefer to pass and have my 'I'm sorry' ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 What is 3♦ supposed to mean? Long diamonds, weak defense, huge offense, often a swan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 What is 3♦ supposed to mean? Most parterships don't have these bids defined, so 3♦ will be natural (by meta-rules). In theory... - It's not weak/preemptive because you pass out 1♣ with a weak hand. Besides, since you can pass, you're not preempting anyone here.- It's not strong (although you can define it as such) because strong hands, as in 15+, dbl first.- It's not artificial because it's undiscussed and thus must be natural. The only option left is, logically, natural with an intermediate hand. I.e. 10-14 or so with about 7 cards (with 6 you balance 2♦ only). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgoetze Posted July 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 I couldn't decide between 1♦ and 3♦ and thus bid 2♦. Probably a bad method. [hv=lin=pn|x,helene_t,y,mgoetze|st%7C%7Cmd%7C1S4JQAH69AD3KC467J%2CS27KH47TD2TJAC5KA%2CS3589TH258DC389TQ%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%203%7Csv%7Ce%7Cmb%7C1C%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C2D%7Cmb%7C2S%7Cmb%7C3N%7Cmb%7C4S%7Cmb%7C5D%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cmc%7C11%7C]480|360[/hv] It's a good thing my LHO knew all about "cover an honor with an honor". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 Pretty normal bidding to me. In fact, you definitely outbid me :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 2♦ in the 4th seat would have attracted 6♦ not 5 from me, to me it shows a strong jump overcall type hand x, AKQ, KQ98xx, Qxx is not far off par. Is this a normal interpretation ? I'd have overcalled 1N with the W hand though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 I couldn't decide between 1♦ and 3♦ and thus bid 2♦. Probably a bad method.LOL, sometimes, after a 1NT opening I can't decide between 2♣ and 4♣. ;) Why didn't West overcall 1NT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_20686 Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 I would not overcall a NT on a bad average 15. I think its dangerous, especially are red vs green. And I can rely on my partner to balance with pretty much nothing :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 And I can rely on my partner to balance with pretty much nothing :)So can I, apparently :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 2♦ in the 4th seat would have attracted 6♦ not 5 from me, to me it shows a strong jump overcall type hand x, AKQ, KQ98xx, Qxx is not far off par. Is this a normal interpretation ?This is normal to me, and pretty-much dates back to the mid 20th Century with no particular reason for it to have changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 I would not overcall a NT on a bad average 15. I think its dangerous, especially are red vs green. And I can rely on my partner to balance with pretty much nothing :)Imo it's a good 15, not average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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