MrAce Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 [hv=pc=n&s=sj432hk9dkj98caq9&d=w&v=0&b=8&a=pp1hd2hpp]133|200[/hv] MP, would u pass or make another move ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 I would pass. Partner is likely to be broke here and the King of H is of very dubious value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Bidding here would be a huge case of matchpointitis! It could work but it's pretty terrible imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Well, I'm going try that terrible bid. Dbl. (ehehe) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Well, I'm going try that terrible bid. Dbl. (ehehe) Double is not a bid, Nuno. It is a call. You are right when you describe it as terrible, by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 X. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 I would pass. Partner is likely to be broke here and the King of H is of very dubious value. Are you saying this because it is in ♥? Certainly positionally it is well placed or is there something about the diagram I am missing. IMV it looks to be behind the opening caller and 5+ cards in the ♥ suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Double is not a bid, Nuno. It is a call. You are right when you describe it as terrible, by the way. ye legalist :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Pass is the "book"-bid. So I'll make it whenever I am in a "book"-situation. That would require: - Playing in a relatively stong, relatively homogenous field.- Playing with a partner, I know would have prebalanced over 2♥ on a lot of hands. (Like ♠Q10xx/♥xxx/♦Qxx/♣xxx)- Playing competent opponents, who will catch me appr. as often as any other strong pair, and who are not known to over-compete. Being all white, the situation cries for competition beyond 2♥, and I would back in with a double at the slightest excuse. After all, I don't hold: ♠ J32♥ K9♦ J982♣ AQ92 a hand I would also make an initial TO-double with. Changing just their vulnerabilety to red, I would be much more hesitant, as the occasional +200 will yield a fine score, and even +100 will beat the +90 I can easily imagine being out there on some boards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 I don't see why the heart king is a dubious value either, it is useful on offense as well as defense. It seems like a clear pass though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 [hv=pc=n&s=sj432hk9dkj98caq9&d=w&v=0&b=8&a=pp1hd2hpp]133|200|MrAce asksMP, would u pass or make another move ? At MP, it's a close decisionDouble = 10, Pass = 9The downside of double is that opponents may be trappingor partner may think you've got a stronger hand.The upside is that partner may have a five card minor. For exampleeg ♠ xx ♥ xxx ♦ Qxx ♣ Kxxxx[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 The upside is that partner may have a five card minor. For exampleeg ♠ xx ♥ xxx ♦ Qxx ♣ Kxxxx Uhuh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 If partner had xx xxx Qxx Kxxxx, wouldn't he have bid 3♣ already? He is also non-vulnerable and playing matchpoints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Surely this is not a "I got a trick better than my last T/O dbl"which a repeated double should be.Do we have a 3m contract that is close? To push them to 3H, but not discovering well-placed stuff for 4H?Or even a 4-4 2S on nothing plus my 14?Naw! Too small targets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachy Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 I Pass. Dbling again should show perfect shape and/or no wastage in hearts. Sometimes one just has to let them play in their known 8-card fit on the two level, even MPs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 If partner had xx xxx Qxx Kxxxx, wouldn't he have bid 3♣ already? He is also non-vulnerable and playing matchpoints. I would. But many wouldn't, so I'm not sure you can make that inference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tataie Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 If partner had xx xxx Qxx Kxxxx, wouldn't he have bid 3♣ already? He is also non-vulnerable and playing matchpoints. I wouldnt have bid 3♣My answer is if the have in system a better support call like the Bromad 2♦ showing constructive fit I would xif not I will pray a bit and still x. :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted July 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 I doubled, passing wins. In fact pd had 5-5 minors, stiff ♥, xx ♠ with good 0 hcp ! I pushed them to 4♥ which was cold. LHO's 2♥ was loaded, 5♥ 332 10 hcp ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 I doubled, passing wins. In fact pd had 5-5 minors, stiff ♥, xx ♠ with good 0 hcp ! I pushed them to 4♥ which was cold. LHO's 2♥ was loaded, 5♥ 332 10 hcp ! No surprise here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Discipline advocates pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 bidding is indeed wrong, but no one guessed why :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Another in the continuing theme of: "I brought partner into the auction, have nothing more to say, and am now out of it." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 disregard....there seems to be a time warp in the posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 bidding is indeed wrong, but no one guessed why :)Nuno, everyone who passed guessed why - because partner has rubbish! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 Nuno, everyone who passed guessed why - because partner has rubbish!actually, there are many reasons to pass...and the actual layout is only one of them. Most importantly, it doesn't matter why, you just know you have no more calls. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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