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Typical preempt problem


semeai

  

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  1. 1. What do you bid?



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At Imps, red vs white, you hear

 

[hv=pc=n&s=sakjh9dk652ckj742&d=n&v=n&b=5&a=pp1c3hdp]133|200[/hv]

 

Your call?

 

If you don't open 1, try the same problem with your choice of opening bid. Partner's hand doesn't matter unless you care about results, so I've given you no UI. :rolleyes:

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4, just in case pard has a flattish 4333. This is wrong if he has 4252/4342 though. If I was sure pard had strong spades, say QT9x, I'd bid 4 of that.

 

I have extras, but 5m seems a long way opposite a passed hand. I think this will depend on the defree of heart wastage and I don't have a way to gauge that. Hence the underbid.

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4, hopefully partner will choose a minor. If he bids 4 I don't know what I'll do... Pass? 4NT? 4 doesn't show the diamonds, that's why I don't like it.
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For those who do like to know results:

 

I bid 3, figuring it was perhaps right, and also gave us a shot at 3NT. Partner should have some hearts; maybe he has a stopper. In retrospect, I doubt partner has both a stopper and only 3 hearts spades, and with 4 spades he's passing or raising to game.

 

Partner held:

 

[hv=pc=n&n=st632h742dqcaqt85]133|100[/hv]

 

3 was off 1 when dummy my hand was tapped. 5 makes, but I think only thehog gets there unless some of the 4 bidders are bidding again over 4. Possibly if I'm going to stop short of game I should bid 4 like whereagles: not resulting but because the logic of 3 was somewhat flawed I now realize.

 

Added: Likely our 4 bidders also get to 5.

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Actually, does partner bid 3NT with 4 spades and a stopper? With fewer than 4 spades and a stopper I guess he just bids 3NT directly. So maybe I continue to like 3.
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He should bid 3NT on some hands with a heart stop, but not automatically.

 

3 is good on some 3145 hands but this one is too strong. We would like to be in game opposite a 3-level negative double, so we should force to game with 4 and should not make a non-forcing bid. Hopefully partner doesn't automatically rebid 4 over 4 just to repeat what we already know. Hopefully partner will bid 5 with 5-card support.

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He should bid 3NT on some hands with a heart stop, but not automatically.

 

3 is good on some 3145 hands but this one is too strong. We would like to be in game opposite a 3-level negative double, so we should force to game with 4 and should not make a non-forcing bid. Hopefully partner doesn't automatically rebid 4 over 4 just to repeat what we already know. Hopefully partner will bid 5 with 5-card support.

 

You're right, partner may well bid 5 over 4, especially with only 10xxx.

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I would have passed with partner's hand.

 

I really don't understand 4NT in response to the dobule, I would think that 4D is clearly better, and 4H is better as well.

 

If 4H is choice of games then partner should obviously not bid 4S on 10xxx.

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3 was off 1 when dummy my hand was tapped. 5 makes, but I think only thehog gets there unless some of the 4 bidders are bidding again over 4.

 

I voted for 4, and over 4 I do indeed pass, and subsequently look for a new partner.

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  • 1 month later...

Necro/Addendum (my apologies for the necro):

 

I was looking at some old challenge the champs hands and came across this: (Hands are approximate as I set it aside and don't have it in front of me now, but I think I have it right.)

 

West:

Axx

x

QJxx

AKxxx

 

East:

Kxxx

Txx

AK

Qxxx

 

Bertheau-Nystrom had the auction 2C* (3H) X (P); 4H (P) 6C end, for top marks. (2C precision)

 

Wooldridge-Hurd had the auction 1C (3H) X (P); 4D (P) 5C end, the second best spot.

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