han Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Red against white, IMPs. Axx-QxxxAKQxxx 1C - (2H) - ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 4♥ 3♥ might work to expose partner's values in hearts, but 4♥ which should be a splinter, which should be at least this strong for minors, better describes our hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 4♥My first thoughts too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 4♥ seems the obvious choice, bidding 5♥ as exclusion is rather agressive imo, and 3♥ doesn't get our hand type across. On the other hand, if you bid 3♥ partner can still end up in 3NT... Pfff, I guess 4♥ should be ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semeai Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 I worry this is too good for 4♥. If partner bids 5♣, will we know what to do? Even if we do know what to do, will we be allowed to do it if partner bids 5♣ slowly? A bid of 3♥, forcing to slam over anything but 3NT, and bidding 4♥ over 3NT would be the other plan (the other other plan is just force to slam no matter what). I hope 3♥..4♥ is more encouraging than just 4♥, as I already know partner has some heart wastage, but it may not be clear I have a void. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 before you select 4♥ as your call, you need to be sure agreements are in place that will allow partner to make sensible rebids. There is not a lot of room between 4♥ and 5♣! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 I dont really understand the splinter bid. As far as i know splinter targets the hands where we make slam IF pd has no wasted values in the splinter suit. Are we gonna give up if pd has wasted hcps in ♥ suit and bids 5♣ ? KQxxKJxKJx xxx This is cold slam vs totally wasted 4 hcps in ♥ KxKxxAKxxxxxx This is a cold grandslam vs a balanced minimum hand with again wasted 3 hcp ♥. Not trying to pick hands to show we always make slam, just pointing out that splinter with void and unexpected source of tricks is not as reliable as it seems to most people. How about xxx KQx AKx xxxx xxx AKx AKx xxxx xxx AKQ Axx xxxx ? I can build pd's hand with all kinds of ♥ hcps and we still could be cold for slam or grandslam.. And ironically pd will think he has a good hand with this vs a splinter ... KQJAxKxxJxxxx I would start with 3♥ and i will try to work my way from there, eventhough it is not perfect i will at least know if we have ♦ control or not. EDIT : Perhaps 4♣ should be played forcing after a preempt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 4♥ is exclusion the way we play, with a rebid for "bad hand in context" interspersed into the responses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted June 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Say you bid 3H as I did at the table. Then LHO bids 4H and partner doubles (penalty). Now what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Say you bid 3H as I did at the table. Then LHO bids 4H and partner doubles (penalty). Now what? There are too many hands where the ♥ wastage makes slam anti-%age as you are really choosing between pass and 6♣ so I am inclined to pass partner's X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmat Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Say you bid 3H as I did at the table. Then LHO bids 4H and partner doubles (penalty). Now what? 4♠ 3-3 fit here I come! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Prefer 3♥ to the splinter because pard is bal 12-14 like 110% of the time and will have a hard time evaluating his hand after a 4♥ bid. After 3♥, LHO's raise and pard's dbl, I'll pull to 5♥ now. I should have a play for 6. Probably it won't be possible to bid a grand here, but I'll give it a try nonetheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 I'm cashing in on the zooming bonus. 6♣. Your lead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 I am always driving to 6C with this hand, for better or worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 5♣, sorry partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 3H for me at this stage. The real problem comes after partner's next bid. If pd does not bid 3NT I will be delighted.I dislike 4H. It does not help me at all if partner bids 5C, does it?After partner's x - I am overruling this and bidding 6C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeegan Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 :rolleyes: Great hand because it illuminates the potential actions of the opponents. Might as well bid 4♥ since 3♥ begets 4 ♥ on my left with 13♥ missing. 4♥ more or less forces us to slam, but it helps us bid seven if that is right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jogs Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Say you bid 3H as I did at the table. Then LHO bids 4H and partner doubles (penalty). Now what? 6♥. It will be spectacularly wrong if partner holds♠ QJxx ♥ AKxx ♦ Kx ♣ xxx I would bid 3♥ also. 4♥ should show a singleton, not a singleton or void. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 D-void splinter, then 6C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y66 Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 5H now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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