Gerben42 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 [hv=pc=n&s=st54hakjtdkc85432&n=sj8732hq983daq3ck&d=w&v=0&b=8&a=p1sp2cp2hp4hppp]266|200[/hv] You considered opening 2♥ for weak with both majors but then rejected it on the premises that you have the rule-of-20 and the other room will open 1♠ also. Now you are in a seemingly hopeless contract, but at least the other table will play it too. ♦2 is lead (3rd 5th). Now what? Does it change anything if you know that East considered a bit before passing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 I'm not particularly convinced, but voted on my instinct. Win the Ace, cash the ♦Q throwing a spade then exit a spade. If they return a trump (best), win in hand and play a second spade. If they play another trump, I play a club to the K and hope whoever has the A has no trumps left. I hope to score 2 spades, 2 diamonds and 6 trumps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohitz Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 I'm not particularly convinced, but voted on my instinct. Win the Ace, cash the ♦Q throwing a spade then exit a spade. If they return a trump (best), win in hand and play a second spade. If they play another trump, I play a club to the K and hope whoever has the A has no trumps left. I hope to score 2 spades, 2 diamonds and 6 trumps. We cannot score 2 spades and 6 trumps at the same time. Suppose the play goes as you suggest. The club Ace holder doesn't have the third trump. The position will be [hv=pc=n&s=shkjdc8543&n=sj87h98d3c]133|200[/hv] We have scored 4 tricks and given away 3 tricks. Now, they can play a club which we have to ruff in hand. We ruff a spade to establish the suit but have no entry back. We can cross ruff for 6 trump tricks but then we wont be able to enjoy the spades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiddity Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Seems like our only legitimate chance is that spades are blocked, in which case we should win in dummy and lead a club to cut their communication. This requires someone to hold AK-tight. We could also try winning in dummy and leading a spade; maybe RHO will duck with Ax for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 You considered opening 2♥ for weak with both majors but then rejected it on the premises that you have the rule-of-20 and the other room will open 1♠ also. Sorry, I didn't even for a moment consider opening 2♥ with a 12 count and 3HCP in the majors. Also I gave no consideration to the rule of 20 or the other room. Anyway I would win the ♦K and play a club at trick 2. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Win the ♦A, cash Q and ruff a diamond high. Give up a spade, win heart in hand high, lose 2nd spade, win heart on board and ruff the spade. Eventually I ruff something on the board and draw the last trump. If the opponents start tapping dummy I should run home on a crossruff and 2 side tricks. The trap to the hand is playing a spade and not ruffing the diamond early. If I play A-Q ♦'s and give up a spade the timing is wrong. The play continues, spade, trump, spade, trump, ruff spade. Now if I give up a club, I can't draw trump and ruff the diamond without tapping out dummy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayin801 Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Sorry, I didn't even for a moment consider opening 2♥ with a 12 count and 3HCP in the majors. Also I gave no consideration to the rule of 20 or the other room. Anyway I would win the ♦K and play a club at trick 2. This. If they find the spade switch after maybe winning the ♣A and cash out 4 tricks, nice D opps. Obviously it's not the technical line but it definitely puts the most pressure on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 This. If they find the spade switch after maybe winning the ♣A and cash out 4 tricks, nice D opps. Obviously it's not the technical line but it definitely puts the most pressure on them. Ah, but I hadn't seen Phil's line when I posted, Phil's line looks to be 100% when hearts and spades both break doesn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiddity Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 edit - misread Phil's line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Ah, but I hadn't seen Phil's line when I posted, Phil's line looks to be 100% when hearts and spades both break doesn't it? It is a fair line but not a legitimate one. Good defenders will not play a ♥ but force North with ♣ plays when in with the first ♠.If North now plays a 2nd ♠ they will stop the cross ruff with a trump. There is now no way of establishing ♠ and cashing them and a cross ruff will yield only 9 tricks. The only legitimate way I see of making this hand is to play for ♠ being blocked (♠AK tight, about a 7% chance) and playing a ♣ at trick 2. Note that you will need nerves of steel if opponents return trumps. To make the hand you must refuse the urge to overtake dummy's trumps to discard ♠ on high ♦. Instead you must win the first and second trump return in dummy and play ♠ from dummy. In practice it might be more profitable to hope for some type of mis-defense. Whether Phil's line or the legitimate line is more likely to lead to mis-defense can be argued. Rainer Herrmann 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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