Fluffy Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 ♠xxx♥xxx♦AKQJx♣Kx 1♦-2♣2♦-2♠?? and when you decide what you bid: partner bids 4♥ over both 3♣ and 3♦ what now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahydra Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 I open 1NT. Disaster averted. :) Playing a strong NT, why not rebid 2NT (if 12-14)? After the sequence given, I guess I'd have to bid 3C (ugh)... but then partner bids 4H... wtf is that? Exclusion Blackwood? ahydra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 3♣ Partner won't get too excited, IMO, except when it's right. Plus, if I panic, I can probably play diamonds opposite a stiff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 (edited) After the sequence given, I guess I'd have to bid 3C (ugh)... but then partner bids 4H... wtf is that? Exclusion Blackwood? ahydraDisagree with "ugh", 3C seems right. As to "WTF", yes (excl for clubs). And since pard has a heart void, there are six Keycards including the club and diamond kings. If pard next shows we have all the keys, I will launch with the solid diamond suit. Edited June 19, 2011 by aguahombre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 Well, I don't really worry about the meaning of one highly unlikely obscure auction when I am trying to figure out what to bid. Here I think it's a clear 3♣ call, and if partner wants to bid 4♥, we'll figure out what's going on then. FWIW I think 4♥ is exclusion with clubs as trump, partner never set diamonds, and could have done so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 I agree with the bidding so far. Am I such a handhog that I need to wrongside the NT? This is a very easy 3♣. 4♥ is exclusion by definition. I know we are having a strong auction, but where are the 11 hearts? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 I know we are having a strong auction, but where are the 11 hearts?They have strange decks in Orange County? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 They have strange decks in Orange County? OK, ok, 10 :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 This comes from bridgebig (individuals) my partner rebid 3NT with xxx in hearts lol. I had: ♠AQ10x♥A♦9xx♣AQJxx Prohbably I wouldn't bid 4♥, anyone suposing that 4♥ is exclusion in a no agreement enviroment is laughable IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 This comes from bridgebig (individuals) my partner rebid 3NT with xxx in hearts lol. I had: ♠AQ10x♥A♦9xx♣AQJxx Prohbably I wouldn't bid 4♥, anyone suposing that 4♥ is exclusion in a no agreement enviroment is laughable IMO.IMO, your partner's 3NT rebid with XXX in hearts is not a good idea, compared against 3C --which seems to be the consensus call. But in a no-agreement environment, I don't understand 4H over his 3NT when no trump suit has been established. Back to reality: if opener does choose the 3C rebid, then your hand can set trumps with 3D (partner has shown 5+ diamonds). This puts you on course for 7D, which pretty much only needs ruffing one heart in dummy for 13 tricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 I would have bid 2NT instead of 2♦ on the "shape/strength first" principle. Having bid 2♦, I think 3♣ now is better. Over 4♥ I'm a bit stuck. Probably will bid 5♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 IMO, your partner's 3NT rebid with XXX in hearts is not a good idea, compared against 3C --which seems to be the consensus call. But in a no-agreement environment, I don't understand 4H over his 3NT when no trump suit has been established. Back to reality: if opener does choose the 3C rebid, then your hand can set trumps with 3D (partner has shown 5+ diamonds). This puts you on course for 7D, which pretty much only needs ruffing one heart in dummy for 13 tricks.I never bid 4♥, specially not over 3NT where no trump is stablished, instead I bid 4♦ over wich aprtner bid 5♣and I raised to 6♣ not knowing what was going on really. 3NT is completelly ridicolous with xxx in hearts. Its a hand hog from individuals. But in retrospect, it is very hard to find 7♦ on this deal, unless I start raising diamonds over 2♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 If you have to bid like this due to playing a strong no trump, I'd play 2♠ FG and bid 3♥ 4SF here to show pretty much a 3352 or just possibly 2452 without a heart stop. We're pretty free with 1♦-suit-3♦, so don't need this for what most people would consider a really good 2♦ rebid. Bizarrely we'd actually have an auction where N basically bids all 13 of his cards if we met this hand. 1N(12-14)-2C (stayman)2♦-4♣(5+ clubs and a 4 card major, slam interest)4♦(KC)-4♥(0/3)4♠(Q♣?)-5♠(yes and no side K, we use 4N for "yes and the most expensive K, spades here")6♦ The 6♦ bid more or less marks the 1N bidder with AKQJx of diamonds and Kx of clubs presumably 3-3 in the others so bidding 7♦ is not difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Seems like a nice hand for those weak NT methods :) 1NT = (11)12-14... - 2S = range ask (clubs or balanced-ish)3C = max... - 3H = 5 clubs, 4 spades, slam interest4D = no fit, good 5 diamonds, good for slam... - 4H = RKCB (for diamonds)5D = 2 or 5 +Q... - 5H = K ask6C = CK only... - 7D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 I would bid 2NT over 2C, so Fluffy, you can lol at that. I would bid 3C if I chose the sequence you gave me.Yes, 4H would be exclusion bw for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeegan Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 :rolleyes: 3♦ showing a self-sufficient ♦ suit seems to me to be a lesser fib than 3♣ indicating ♣ as a suitable place to play. Pard's polymorphus 4♥ call will elicit 5 ♣ showing the king, followed by 7♦. Bridge is an easy game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 I'd bid 3♣ and consider 4♥ exclusion blackwood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.