happybridge Posted September 21, 2004 Report Share Posted September 21, 2004 SYS:2 over 1,opps keep silence 1. 1♦ 3♠? 2. 1♦ 2♦(invert minor) 2NT 3♣ 3♦ 4♠? [hv=s=skqxxhkjxxd10xxckx]133|100|[/hv] thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted September 21, 2004 Report Share Posted September 21, 2004 With no further agreements I would assume that 2) wanted to show a club feature before slintering, i.e. he has a side suit that is too good for a splinter. It would make sense to play 4♠ as Xclusion Blackwood here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted September 22, 2004 Report Share Posted September 22, 2004 1. Easy: prototypical hand is 1363 and 13-16 playing points. With more, start with 2♦. 2. NOT easy. :D . The second sequence sounds like exclusion blackwood to be honest, especially playing a lower level key card ask for ♦'s. By the way, 3♣ sets up a game force, and this hand needs to play the NT, so I like 3N better than 3♦ to help put the brakes on. I'm not enamored about opening this aceless 12 count either, but I suppose most would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted September 22, 2004 Report Share Posted September 22, 2004 I'm not enamored about opening this aceless 12 count either, but I suppose most would. uh huh :D ... 1nt (heck, i'm max controls for my minimum)... agree with both of you, i think #2 4S is xrkc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 I think slightly differently. 1) is a typical splinter, np. We are all ok with that (well, as long as you don't play 3♠ over 1♦ as preemptive with spades, that is, which is how i play it).... 2) Since 3♠ wasn't available to me the first go around, I guess I can use 4♠ as splinter if I like, or I can keep it as exclusion blackwood...but here is what I like 4♠ to be after I introduce a new suit... 1♦-2♦ (invert)2NT-3♣ (game force, clubs)3♦-4♠ <<--- Ok, I agree this is exclusion blackwood, but with a twist, the king of clubs is now a key card, and my responses allow showing minor queen. Also, if I rebid 4♦ over 3♦ that is normal minorwood - but with two suit agreement. If I rebid 3NT over 3♦ mild slam try unsuited for minorwood. And if I cue-bid something else, it is just a cue-bid and then if I use minorwood/rkcb later it is normal rkcb. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricK Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Because the first sequence uses so much room, it should be very specific. In particular, if partner has a lot of wasted values in ♠ and bids 3NT he should not be disappointed with your holdings in the other suits. When you bid 2♦, you leave much more room to investigate whether 3NT or 5♦ is the correct contract. If opener rebids 2NT (as here) it might be a good idea to play a new suit at the 3 level as a splinter. Saying, in effect, "I have a singleton here also my hand wasn't suitable for an immediate splinter." That should allow opener to decide if NT is really the place to play. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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