kenrexford Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 ♠A109xxx ♥AKxx ♦x ♣Ax (3♦)-P-P-? This may develop more if my decision is repeated by others. I'm still not sure about this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 Vulnerability? Scoring? I like double first but it might get us to trouble (partner will bid hearts first with 3-3 in the Majors). 3♠ for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 double of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 Double. Partner should usually pass, bid 3NT or 4♣ with 3-3 in the majors. He shouldn't bid 3M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_20686 Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 double of course what are you planning to do over 3N? Would 4!s not show a strong single suiter at this point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 what are you planning to do over 3N? Would 4!s not show a strong single suiter at this point? With a strong single suiter I would have bid 4S over 3D. It shows a strong flexible hand (like possibly 6-4 in the majors!), likely with a 6 card suit if we aren't passing 3N (but if partner had bid a suit could def be a 5 card suit). I don't think it matters much, what's so bad about playing 4S opposite a hand that bids 3N over a balancing X? If partner has a good hand for a spade slam and moves, my hand is pretty good for that too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 Agree with double. Only a 4♣ response causes any problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 WHACK...oops not a penalty double... hm so ....tox (I'm trying 4♠ over partner's 4♣ call) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted June 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 OK, so of course I also doubled. This develops into the following next call decision: (3♦)-P-P-XP-3♥-(4♦)-? This one probably is easy, but we get further to one more round, regardless of what you do... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 Dbl first, now 4♥. If they go to 5♦, dbl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 OK, so of course I also doubled. This develops into the following next call decision: (3♦)-P-P-XP-3♥-(4♦)-? This one probably is easy, but we get further to one more round, regardless of what you do... 4H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted June 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 So far, so good. Now, the final decision... (3♦)-P-P-XP-3♥-4♦-4♥5♦-P!-P-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 Now I double. I have this set in my own hand, with no safety at the 5 level. Partner could be completely broke over there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted June 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 Now I double. I have this set in my own hand, with no safety at the 5 level. Partner could be completely broke over there. Really? I would have thought that this auction established a forcing pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 Come on, pard bid a mere 3♥. He's broke: how can he now make a forcing pass? Just dbl and take the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 ♠A109xxx ♥AKxx ♦x ♣Ax(3♦) _P (_P) _X(_P) 3♥ (4♦) 4♥(5♦) P! (_P) ?? IMO Over 3♦, agree with doubleOver 4♦, 4♥= 10, 4♠ = 7, _X = 6, _P = 2Over 5♦ (even with a BIT by partner) _X = 10, 5♥ = 5, _P = 1Oh I see now: Partner's pass may be forcing. I think I still double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted June 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 Come on, pard bid a mere 3♥. He's broke: how can he now make a forcing pass? Just dbl and take the money. This has nothing to do with what partner might or might not have. It has more to do with what is going on in the auction. IF, and that's the "if," the opponents are clearly sacrificing contextually and we are clearly setting this, forcing pass is in play, it seems. More precisely, if this is an auction that cannot end with 5♦ undoubled as the final contract, whether that would be the best decision or not, then this is a forcing pass auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Your reasoning is correct, but the situation is, as you said, iffy as to whether we were making 4♥. I wouldn't be surprised hcps are 20-20 and both 4♥ and 5♦ go like 1 down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycroft Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 3H is "broke, given that balancing doubles could be moderately weak hands" (certainly, weaker than what we have). That could be zero, but it could be 8 or 9 in secondaries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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