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opponent opens 1 club. (You are red, opps are white)

 

How would you rate a 2 spade overcall here?

 

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Question 2: If one were playing Ogust over a weak jump overcall, how would you rate the bid?

 

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very silly at R/W. it doesn't matter what kind of 2NT relay we play over it - they come up less than 1% of the hands, usually partner has a pass, 3 or a 4 bid, if LHO even passes.
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We don't play Ogust, by the way, but I know that some people do.

 

I probably should have bid, but I didn't expect an Ace (or an outside King, actually) in partner's hand, and I didn't like my 3 clubs, the fact that the opener was behind my Kings, and the fact that we were red.

 

Should I have bid--either immediately or after the opener bid 3 clubs over my partner's jump overcall? This is imps.

 

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Should I have bid--either immediately or after the opener bid 3 clubs over my partner's jump overcall? This is imps.

 

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Red vs white, I would expect partner to have something in addition to KJxxxx for the 2 bid; I might raise to 3 directly but would certainly do it after the 3 bid.

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Pass is a call. A bid includes a number and a denomination.

 

In the hand discussed I would prefer bidding 1 than 2. Pass is not to be criticized either.

 

1 > Pass >>>> 2

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A routine 1, no reason to spend too many brain cells on that.

 

If one happened to bid 2 anyway and partner ogusts, then the respond should clearly be to show a maximum hand. If partner has a fit then the hand improves and even gets out of range for the 2 bid. But it is much simpler just to bid 1 and avoid all of this.

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This is a white 1S opener for many, so I don't see why it should be a 2S hand.

opponent opens 1 club. (You are red, opps are white)

 

How would you rate a 2 spade overcall here?

 

[hv=pc=n&n=sj87654ha5dat53c3]133|100[/hv]

 

Question 2: If one were playing Ogust over a weak jump overcall, how would you rate the bid?

 

Thanks for your responses.

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Thanks all. It was a clear 1 spade bid to me as most of you suggest.

I don't see much value in using Ogust over a weak jump overcall except that I suppose it allows partner to make jump overcalls on more hands, showing a 6 card suit. and white against red that could be advantageous I suppose. ??

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I would rate a 2S overcall as horrible

 

That good!!! at these colors? :) IMO You may need a rethink on preemptive bidding strategy, at least at IMPS.

 

EDIT: BTW second sentence was meant for the OP. JLOL has some semblance of knowledge of preemptive bidding strategy :)

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I don't see much value in using Ogust over a weak jump overcall except that I suppose it allows partner to make jump overcalls on more hands, showing a 6 card suit. and white against red that could be advantageous I suppose. ??

A good thought about needing Ogust or not according to vulnerability. Perhaps in a future thread it will be explored as a consideration (for weak-two opening bids).

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