xx1943 Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 [hv=pc=n&s=saj4ht87dacakjt54&d=e&v=n&b=2&a=p1c3s4dp]133|200[/hv]1) What does partners 4♦ promise?2) Which meaning have 4♥, 4♠ and 4NT?3) Any idea what is the best bid in this situation? This was the actual hand: [hv=?myhand=M-36957972-1307968021]500|375[/hv] Who is to blame for not reaching slam? I'm looking forward to your answers Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 1. 4♦ should show at least 6 diamonds (5 might be possible I suppose but unlikely) with a hand with at least 13 HCP (it's forcing game, you don't pre-empt over pre-empt).2. 4♥ should be natural. 4♠ is a cue-bid showing a great hand, I'm not sure whether it shows diamond support or not, though, but I'd say it tends to. 4NT could be natural or RKCB, I would take it as the later but some might take it as the former.3. The best bid might be 4♠, but then partner might want to play in diamonds. I would just bid 6♣, expecting partner to have the heart control. I suppose 5♣ is another possiblility, and then partner will take us to slam (but that might not be true, we would bid 5♣ with a small singleton diamond and a loser in spades, though that sounds pessimistic). Whatever you decide to do pass shouldn't be an option and partner also had the possibility to make a negative double so his hand should be stronger and probably doesn't want to play in NT. I'd bid 6♣ myself but I think your partner could have bid it over your 5♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 One thing for sure: pard has points. I don't really see how to disentangle this, since no bid except the min-looking 5♣ can contribuite to sort out what suit we should be playing. I would probably end up bidding 4♠ and later loosing patience and shooting at 6NT out of annoyance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloa513 Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 Should be in GIB forum- its not a free bid to bid with 17 HCP, that's a forcing natural bid. 4D should be artificial strong force- who wants to compete minor over minor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 Should be in GIB forum- its not a free bid to bid with 17 HCP, that's a forcing natural bid. 4D should be artificial strong force- who wants to compete minor over minor. Strongly disagree. 4♦ is natural and forcing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 #1 4D is natural.#2 4H - unclear, but I would say natural as well.#3 4S - slam try for diamonds#4 4NT - RKCB for diamonds, declarer may intend to play in clubd..........I am bidding 6C With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 Yeah you just have to guess some number of clubs over 4D I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 What would 5NT be? GSF? Pick a slam? I like pick a slam here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 If the explanation is 12-13 total points, I guess 5♣ is a huge underbid so I blame South for lying to his robot partner (also note that the robot can't read hesitations ;) ). I would probably bid 6♣, although I like 5NT as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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